yea, loaded vanguard, sustainable stoke. its bamboo, super duper carvy. DO not buy a Sector nine. with the exception of thier high end decks, they are POS's that preppy posers ride around on. they suck. loaded, landyatchz, gravity, earthwing, insect, arbor, etc etc. and if you wanna carve, get something like Siesmics, Holeys, etc with ABEC11 wheels and Blitin bearings (the have all the spacers intergrated, super good earing, great price too). randals, eh, randals ride well, but quite honestly are Cast like crap. and also, with bushing trucks, bushing setup makes alllll the diff. in the world. caheck out silverfishlongboarding.com. its the NS of the oldschool skate world.