topic:_salty_ said:it got rated pretty well in the freeskier buyers guide.
13716621:K-Dot. said:Can't really speak on them but yeah, freeskier guides aren't really reliable. That being said it doesn't look like the worst ski ever, but who knows.
So it's a medium soft 92 underfoot ski, nothing miraculous, however it is very light for its size, comparing it to other skis of its caliber. This could be nice but line has been known for iffy durability in lower end park skis. The bases are extruded and the materials look that of a cheaper ski so keep that in mind.
I would look at the Tom Wallisch, k2 shreditor 92s, surface blanks, on3p magnus, or faction 1.0s. They're all in a similar class but are bound to be more durable. Although I have seen factions just fall apart before
13718088:K-Dot. said:I dunno why I didn't think of it the first time I commented but OP you should also take a look at the Joystick These. I don't know the exact weight but they are super light skis with a medium soft flex. Much cheaper than the line's and will likely last you just as long if not longer. Also, sintered bases.
13716621:K-Dot. said:That being said it doesn't look like the worst ski ever, but who knows.
13718322:_Jeffrey_ said:Cap construction sucks
13718603:Heart said:Never buy a ski with an extruded base. Just don't. They're incredibly slow. If you ever have trouble getting enough speed for features, avoid at all costs.
13718824:Sconnie said:LINE needs to get with it. They are producing complete trash.
13719261:_salty_ said:I'm getting the jist here but explain to me as if I was 5 why extruded bases are crap and why sinterd bases are better.
13719270:a_burger said:Basically extruded bases do not absorb wax as well because they don't really have pores, and thus will lose wax pretty quickly. The trade off is that they are cheaper and it's easier to get p-tex repairs to bond to them.
Sintered bases have pores and are generally harder, making them less likely to get damaged and allowing them to hold wax for much longer. The trade off here is that if you don't wax them for a while they begin to dry and out and will not accept any more wax (meaning you need a base grind), they are also more expensive and harder to repair.
I've also heard an unwaxed extruded base is faster then a dried out sintered base, not sure how true that is.
It makes sense to put an extruded base on a pure park ski because it will be easier to maintain as well as cheaper and require less attention. Sintered bases make more sense on all mountain skis that are going to be well maintained and waxed more frequently. afaik theres no speed bonus in having sintered bases if your only gonna wax them once or twice a season.
13719494:_salty_ said:Ahhh that makes sense, what if I just waxed extruded bases frequently would you notice a difference?
13718878:a_burger said:this just in, anything with cap construction or extruded bases is complete trash
13719500:a_burger said:If you did that they would be comparable to a sintered base but you would have to wax every 2 or 3 days at least
tbh I never had speed issues except in the spring, but here on the EC the snows usually pretty hard all winter
13718878:a_burger said:this just in, anything with cap construction or extruded bases is complete trash
13719261:_salty_ said:I'm getting the jist here but explain to me as if I was 5 why extruded bases are crap and why sinterd bases are better.