I'm going to disagree. The 08 Jibs are the lightest skis i've ever skied and weight absolutly nothing for a 181. I find the 09 jibs to be slightly more poppy though, after that first pop I was like holy shit, i hit this same knoll every day but never this way. The 09s weight a lil more but i probably wouldn't have noticed the difference if i wasn't told it was there before. From memory UPS said the 08s had a 10 pound box incuded while DHL said the 09s were 11 pounds box included. IT doesn't make a difference though. THey still feel next to nothing while skiing. Forgot I even mentioned the differences in weight between the 2 skis. Its purely placebo and will not effect your skiing at all.