Level 1 Film Tour ’22

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Anyone else stoked for the level 1 film tour? I for sure am, super stoked for what Forre has come up with as well as all the others.

I gotta say though, I’m slightly upset that the tour is featuring locational films, films they’re only showing at specific locations. For example, Salt Lake gets to see the child labor premier, and Burlington gets keep standing.

As a Vermonter in Bozeman, I’m pissed lowkey they’re not showing those in Bozeman, as well as all the other locations. it’s a freeski film tour, people will want to see those movies if they’re attending the event. Sure the films premiering locally will get more hype but we all wanna see them too.

So here I ask [tag=23396]@Level1[/tag] and Mr. Josh Berman why all the locations can’t get all the films, we’d all love that.

Let’s hear your opinions and hype about the tour, because even though we all don’t get to see all the films, it’s still going to be an amazing event as it was last year, is becoming critical to modern day freeskiing/Newschoolers. What films y’all looking forward to most?

**This thread was edited on Sep 9th 2022 at 6:59:44pm
 
14460739:nmwninjart said:
I'm bummed they're not stopping anywhere in the Midwest.
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It would be cool if they added a Minnesota stop or like Michigan maybe. Y’all Midwest homies deserve films too!
 
14460777:dwt802 said:
It would be cool if they added a Minnesota stop or like Michigan maybe. Y’all Midwest homies deserve films too!
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I feel the same bout that ?
 
14460739:nmwninjart said:
I'm bummed they're not stopping anywhere in the Midwest.
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Everyone forgets about the place with one of the highest concentration of ski hills in the country lol
 
14460783:Lonely said:
Everyone forgets about the place with one of the highest concentration of ski hills in the country lol
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TL;DR: please focus on what we ARE doing, not what we're NOT doing. There's a massive amount of work to pull a 6-city tour off along with everything else we're doing. Most of our team has been working 60+ hour weeks all summer.

No one at Level 1 has forgotten about the Midwest. There's a million factors that have to go into our decisions for a tour like this.

The simple fact is that we haven't run premieres ourselves outside of SLC/Denver/Bozeman in many years. Every new city we expand into is a calculated risk, because we can only make an educated guess at what the demand for tickets will be. Renting the venues can cost anywhere from 2k-5k. Then we have to add travel costs for our team on top of that, and hope that we'll be able to make that money back in ticket sales. For many reasons, Seattle/Boston/Burlington were the right cities for us this year.

Doubling the size of the tour from 3 cities to 6 is already a big jump. One of the easiest mistakes to make in any business (skiing or not) is trying to get too big too fast. It happened to Jiberish - they barely survived and are still digging out the of debt from opening too many stores too fast. Go watch the documentary "The Rise and Fall of AND1" on Netflix for a bigger example.

Even harder to deal with is the fact that all these movies start coming out on YouTube in October. Parker's movie SOMETHING will be out for free on Oct 2nd. And most of the movies are barely done being edited by mid-September. So we're really looking at a 2 week window to try to book all our tour stops. Its way harder than when we were touring a feature movie that we made, and controlled the drop date in mid-November.

Booking a tour like this with legit venues is really difficult. We're battling bigger acts that have an established reputation in that city, that will charge more for tickets and therefore make the venue more money on their ticketing fees (don't even get me started on the fees). Booking this tour required us to be in conversation with 20 venues across the country at the same time, 3-5 in each city. It's a massive headache with tons of moving parts.

There's a big list of cities we'd love to run these events in. Boone NC, Reno, LA, SF, Portland, Bend, Detroit, Twin Cities, NYC, Boise, Vancouver, Calgary, Innsbruck, London, Stockholm, on and on and on. No one loves running premieres more than us - trust us. But we're not even sure if expanding it into 3 cities is gonna work yet. Time will tell. If we lose money on the tour after spending months putting it together, it's pretty hard to justify bringing it back. It's a labor of love and we're passionate about it, but passion only puts food in our bellies when there's profit that follows. That's life.

I love to hear the requests to bring this to the Midwest. Hopefully we can next year. But it's more complicated than I think most people realize - hence this essay and attempt at transparency.

[tag=246030]@dwt802[/tag] as far as showing the Child Labor movie goes - if you came to our premiere last year in Bozeman, you'll know well that program was far too long. This year's program is over 90 minutes already. It's important to us that we have a program that balances short and long movies (and pow and street too) effectively. We have to make hard decisions, but it does help to hear your feedback and we are listening. FWIW, I'm not even sure if Child Labor would have wanted us to show their film on the whole tour.

If you want to see Child Labor on a big screen, make a trip down to SLC for their premiere that they will run themselves sometime in October! I can say for a fact it'd be well worth it, and you'd be supporting them directly by buying their tickets. It ain't that far.

Thank you to everyone who has expressed enthusiasm for the tour and/or bought tickets. We appreciate you!!!!!!

-Conor
 
14460818:Level1 said:
TL;DR: please focus on what we ARE doing, not what we're NOT doing. There's a massive amount of work to pull a 6-city tour off along with everything else we're doing. Most of our team has been working 60+ hour weeks all summer.

No one at Level 1 has forgotten about the Midwest. There's a million factors that have to go into our decisions for a tour like this.

The simple fact is that we haven't run premieres ourselves outside of SLC/Denver/Bozeman in many years. Every new city we expand into is a calculated risk, because we can only make an educated guess at what the demand for tickets will be. Renting the venues can cost anywhere from 2k-5k. Then we have to add travel costs for our team on top of that, and hope that we'll be able to make that money back in ticket sales. For many reasons, Seattle/Boston/Burlington were the right cities for us this year.

Doubling the size of the tour from 3 cities to 6 is already a big jump. One of the easiest mistakes to make in any business (skiing or not) is trying to get too big too fast. It happened to Jiberish - they barely survived and are still digging out the of debt from opening too many stores too fast. Go watch the documentary "The Rise and Fall of AND1" on Netflix for a bigger example.

Even harder to deal with is the fact that all these movies start coming out on YouTube in October. Parker's movie SOMETHING will be out for free on Oct 2nd. And most of the movies are barely done being edited by mid-September. So we're really looking at a 2 week window to try to book all our tour stops. Its way harder than when we were touring a feature movie that we made, and controlled the drop date in mid-November.

Booking a tour like this with legit venues is really difficult. We're battling bigger acts that have an established reputation in that city, that will charge more for tickets and therefore make the venue more money on their ticketing fees (don't even get me started on the fees). Booking this tour required us to be in conversation with 20 venues across the country at the same time, 3-5 in each city. It's a massive headache with tons of moving parts.

There's a big list of cities we'd love to run these events in. Boone NC, Reno, LA, SF, Portland, Bend, Detroit, Twin Cities, NYC, Boise, Vancouver, Calgary, Innsbruck, London, Stockholm, on and on and on. No one loves running premieres more than us - trust us. But we're not even sure if expanding it into 3 cities is gonna work yet. Time will tell. If we lose money on the tour after spending months putting it together, it's pretty hard to justify bringing it back. It's a labor of love and we're passionate about it, but passion only puts food in our bellies when there's profit that follows. That's life.

I love to hear the requests to bring this to the Midwest. Hopefully we can next year. But it's more complicated than I think most people realize - hence this essay and attempt at transparency.

[tag=246030]@dwt802[/tag] as far as showing the Child Labor movie goes - if you came to our premiere last year in Bozeman, you'll know well that program was far too long. This year's program is over 90 minutes already. It's important to us that we have a program that balances short and long movies (and pow and street too) effectively. We have to make hard decisions, but it does help to hear your feedback and we are listening. FWIW, I'm not even sure if Child Labor would have wanted us to show their film on the whole tour.

If you want to see Child Labor on a big screen, make a trip down to SLC for their premiere that they will run themselves sometime in October! I can say for a fact it'd be well worth it, and you'd be supporting them directly by buying their tickets. It ain't that far.

Thank you to everyone who has expressed enthusiasm for the tour and/or bought tickets. We appreciate you!!!!!!

-Conor
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Lmao sorry if you thought that was pointed at you guys. I guess this thread is about your tour so I see how my comment could read that way.

Moreso was just a general observation of something that occurs with most businesses, events, and organizations including those outside of skiing when it comes to action sports.

No I'll will intended.

Im sure it's ass to organize and you also don't want to go into debt.

A poor Midwestern can wish though right?

**This post was edited on Sep 10th 2022 at 6:19:23pm
 
14460818:Level1 said:
TL;DR: please focus on what we ARE doing, not what we're NOT doing. There's a massive amount of work to pull a 6-city tour off along with everything else we're doing. Most of our team has been working 60+ hour weeks all summer.

No one at Level 1 has forgotten about the Midwest. There's a million factors that have to go into our decisions for a tour like this.

The simple fact is that we haven't run premieres ourselves outside of SLC/Denver/Bozeman in many years. Every new city we expand into is a calculated risk, because we can only make an educated guess at what the demand for tickets will be. Renting the venues can cost anywhere from 2k-5k. Then we have to add travel costs for our team on top of that, and hope that we'll be able to make that money back in ticket sales. For many reasons, Seattle/Boston/Burlington were the right cities for us this year.

Doubling the size of the tour from 3 cities to 6 is already a big jump. One of the easiest mistakes to make in any business (skiing or not) is trying to get too big too fast. It happened to Jiberish - they barely survived and are still digging out the of debt from opening too many stores too fast. Go watch the documentary "The Rise and Fall of AND1" on Netflix for a bigger example.

Even harder to deal with is the fact that all these movies start coming out on YouTube in October. Parker's movie SOMETHING will be out for free on Oct 2nd. And most of the movies are barely done being edited by mid-September. So we're really looking at a 2 week window to try to book all our tour stops. Its way harder than when we were touring a feature movie that we made, and controlled the drop date in mid-November.

Booking a tour like this with legit venues is really difficult. We're battling bigger acts that have an established reputation in that city, that will charge more for tickets and therefore make the venue more money on their ticketing fees (don't even get me started on the fees). Booking this tour required us to be in conversation with 20 venues across the country at the same time, 3-5 in each city. It's a massive headache with tons of moving parts.

There's a big list of cities we'd love to run these events in. Boone NC, Reno, LA, SF, Portland, Bend, Detroit, Twin Cities, NYC, Boise, Vancouver, Calgary, Innsbruck, London, Stockholm, on and on and on. No one loves running premieres more than us - trust us. But we're not even sure if expanding it into 3 cities is gonna work yet. Time will tell. If we lose money on the tour after spending months putting it together, it's pretty hard to justify bringing it back. It's a labor of love and we're passionate about it, but passion only puts food in our bellies when there's profit that follows. That's life.

I love to hear the requests to bring this to the Midwest. Hopefully we can next year. But it's more complicated than I think most people realize - hence this essay and attempt at transparency.

[tag=246030]@dwt802[/tag] as far as showing the Child Labor movie goes - if you came to our premiere last year in Bozeman, you'll know well that program was far too long. This year's program is over 90 minutes already. It's important to us that we have a program that balances short and long movies (and pow and street too) effectively. We have to make hard decisions, but it does help to hear your feedback and we are listening. FWIW, I'm not even sure if Child Labor would have wanted us to show their film on the whole tour.

If you want to see Child Labor on a big screen, make a trip down to SLC for their premiere that they will run themselves sometime in October! I can say for a fact it'd be well worth it, and you'd be supporting them directly by buying their tickets. It ain't that far.

Thank you to everyone who has expressed enthusiasm for the tour and/or bought tickets. We appreciate you!!!!!!

-Conor
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I appreciate the response guy, means a lot, thanks for explaining.

I guess I’m bias because I didn’t think the Bozeman stop was too long and enjoyed it all but I guess I’m not the general audience lol. I also didn’t realize you try to balance park and pow in these, just thought it was random based on who you’re associated with wanted to make.

ideally I’d love to go to salt lake to see child labor and support them but I’m not sure if it is really realistic for me. The premier last year sounded like a crazy and fun time. As of them not wanting it shown else where that seems kinda whack given the fact they’re mostly not all from salt lake but I could see it maybe.

again thanks for the response, like I said I’m so so glad you guys are doing this and will continue to support it and level 1, cheers!
 
14460818:Level1 said:
TL;DR: please focus on what we ARE doing, not what we're NOT doing. There's a massive amount of work to pull a 6-city tour off along with everything else we're doing. Most of our team has been working 60+ hour weeks all summer.

No one at Level 1 has forgotten about the Midwest. There's a million factors that have to go into our decisions for a tour like this.

The simple fact is that we haven't run premieres ourselves outside of SLC/Denver/Bozeman in many years. Every new city we expand into is a calculated risk, because we can only make an educated guess at what the demand for tickets will be. Renting the venues can cost anywhere from 2k-5k. Then we have to add travel costs for our team on top of that, and hope that we'll be able to make that money back in ticket sales. For many reasons, Seattle/Boston/Burlington were the right cities for us this year.

Doubling the size of the tour from 3 cities to 6 is already a big jump. One of the easiest mistakes to make in any business (skiing or not) is trying to get too big too fast. It happened to Jiberish - they barely survived and are still digging out the of debt from opening too many stores too fast. Go watch the documentary "The Rise and Fall of AND1" on Netflix for a bigger example.

Even harder to deal with is the fact that all these movies start coming out on YouTube in October. Parker's movie SOMETHING will be out for free on Oct 2nd. And most of the movies are barely done being edited by mid-September. So we're really looking at a 2 week window to try to book all our tour stops. Its way harder than when we were touring a feature movie that we made, and controlled the drop date in mid-November.

Booking a tour like this with legit venues is really difficult. We're battling bigger acts that have an established reputation in that city, that will charge more for tickets and therefore make the venue more money on their ticketing fees (don't even get me started on the fees). Booking this tour required us to be in conversation with 20 venues across the country at the same time, 3-5 in each city. It's a massive headache with tons of moving parts.

There's a big list of cities we'd love to run these events in. Boone NC, Reno, LA, SF, Portland, Bend, Detroit, Twin Cities, NYC, Boise, Vancouver, Calgary, Innsbruck, London, Stockholm, on and on and on. No one loves running premieres more than us - trust us. But we're not even sure if expanding it into 3 cities is gonna work yet. Time will tell. If we lose money on the tour after spending months putting it together, it's pretty hard to justify bringing it back. It's a labor of love and we're passionate about it, but passion only puts food in our bellies when there's profit that follows. That's life.

I love to hear the requests to bring this to the Midwest. Hopefully we can next year. But it's more complicated than I think most people realize - hence this essay and attempt at transparency.

[tag=246030]@dwt802[/tag] as far as showing the Child Labor movie goes - if you came to our premiere last year in Bozeman, you'll know well that program was far too long. This year's program is over 90 minutes already. It's important to us that we have a program that balances short and long movies (and pow and street too) effectively. We have to make hard decisions, but it does help to hear your feedback and we are listening. FWIW, I'm not even sure if Child Labor would have wanted us to show their film on the whole tour.

If you want to see Child Labor on a big screen, make a trip down to SLC for their premiere that they will run themselves sometime in October! I can say for a fact it'd be well worth it, and you'd be supporting them directly by buying their tickets. It ain't that far.

Thank you to everyone who has expressed enthusiasm for the tour and/or bought tickets. We appreciate you!!!!!!

-Conor
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thanks for picking the venue that is directly across the street from where I live Conor :)
 
I know Level 1 explained themselves and the reasoning but I think this is still kind of relevant:

I talked to dan about this a while ago, and I am definitely part of the problem for moving to denver, but a lot of it has to do with where the skiing is. There was a point in time where I can say extremely confidently that the east coast owned skiing. Half the x games roster was from east coast, stept was dropping the heaviest street movies and shortly after it was HG skis, x games and dew tour had stops all over the east, and Carinthia had the best parks arguably in the world. The east was the place to be, but unfortunately due to whatever circumstance, the people that the east coast made decided to chase the culture to other places, instead of establishing itself as a ski hub.

The midwest feels like a similar situation too, I think I realize after living here, me and everyone else who made that move is part of a cyclical problem with getting those areas to become pretty undeniable ski hubs. I think if all those kids stayed and just kept on contributing to the skiing world instead of blowing up and moving on, it would be a lot more difficult for a company to say "Boston is a risk", "Burlington is a risk" if it just wasn't, if there was actually such a big ski presence that they couldn't even call it a risk. I think back to my childhood and remember every bar in Dover and wilmington being packed to the brim every weekend and 12 year old me talking to some 40 year olds about x games athletes and those 40 year olds actually caring, actually sitting there listening to me spit Tom Wallisch trivia for an hour and a half, care, and then go and literally watch him compete at x games the next day. The bars are still packed, but it's people who don't even care, people who have no idea what they're doing, and it's pretty much all of our fault for ever letting it get to that.

Sorry for the long rant but it's something I've been thinkin about for a while, and this is the only thread where it felt relevant to post it. Still love you level 1 ya'll are dope I love the staff over there
 
"UGHH NO MOVIE PREMIERE WHERE I AM!? WTF LEVEL 1, DO THINGS FOR US!!!"

How about you stop bitching and reach out to Level 1 to obtain the rights and copies to host your own premiere?

Oh is that too much effort? Well then, fuck you. You stupid fucks don't realize how most local premieres were hosted by private individuals, ski shops or non-profit groups. I'm not surprised you're all too lazy and pathetic to host your own because tiktok and instagram have melted your feeble minds and your shitty parents have destroyed any sense of a work ethic.

There's nothing more hilarious than seeing a bunch of entitled turds complaining how their fellow entitled turds are too lazy to put on a premier. Fuck you, you get what you deserve which is nothing.
 
14461416:skierman said:
"UGHH NO MOVIE PREMIERE WHERE I AM!? WTF LEVEL 1, DO THINGS FOR US!!!"

How about you stop bitching and reach out to Level 1 to obtain the rights and copies to host your own premiere?

Oh is that too much effort? Well then, fuck you. You stupid fucks don't realize how most local premieres were hosted by private individuals, ski shops or non-profit groups. I'm not surprised you're all too lazy and pathetic to host your own because tiktok and instagram have melted your feeble minds and your shitty parents have destroyed any sense of a work ethic.

There's nothing more hilarious than seeing a bunch of entitled turds complaining how their fellow entitled turds are too lazy to put on a premier. Fuck you, you get what you deserve which is nothing.
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I already watched Nothing. Good movie, also will I be blessed to see and possibly meet skierman in burly for the tour stop?
 
14461425:BingPow said:
I already watched Nothing. Good movie, also will I be blessed to see and possibly meet skierman in burly for the tour stop?
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I didn’t realize we deserved the movie nothing but I guess if skierman says then it has to be facts.

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY NOTHING PREMIER, I DESERVE IT AS A LAZY ENTITLED FUCK
 
14461331:Farmville420 said:
I know Level 1 explained themselves and the reasoning but I think this is still kind of relevant:

I talked to dan about this a while ago, and I am definitely part of the problem for moving to denver, but a lot of it has to do with where the skiing is. There was a point in time where I can say extremely confidently that the east coast owned skiing. Half the x games roster was from east coast, stept was dropping the heaviest street movies and shortly after it was HG skis, x games and dew tour had stops all over the east, and Carinthia had the best parks arguably in the world. The east was the place to be, but unfortunately due to whatever circumstance, the people that the east coast made decided to chase the culture to other places, instead of establishing itself as a ski hub.

The midwest feels like a similar situation too, I think I realize after living here, me and everyone else who made that move is part of a cyclical problem with getting those areas to become pretty undeniable ski hubs. I think if all those kids stayed and just kept on contributing to the skiing world instead of blowing up and moving on, it would be a lot more difficult for a company to say "Boston is a risk", "Burlington is a risk" if it just wasn't, if there was actually such a big ski presence that they couldn't even call it a risk. I think back to my childhood and remember every bar in Dover and wilmington being packed to the brim every weekend and 12 year old me talking to some 40 year olds about x games athletes and those 40 year olds actually caring, actually sitting there listening to me spit Tom Wallisch trivia for an hour and a half, care, and then go and literally watch him compete at x games the next day. The bars are still packed, but it's people who don't even care, people who have no idea what they're doing, and it's pretty much all of our fault for ever letting it get to that.

Sorry for the long rant but it's something I've been thinkin about for a while, and this is the only thread where it felt relevant to post it. Still love you level 1 ya'll are dope I love the staff over there
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This is definitely true. Carinthia is great don't get me wrong but its a shadow of what it once was. Not many big names around northeast like there was and if they get big its not long before they take off. I think surviving in the industry at many places especially east and midwest has made it difficult if your not in the place to be anymore. Top guys aren't just cruising down timberline at Killington/Carinthia/LMP or Bush anymore. I don't blame people for going out west but we're the medication to our own problems we created back east in this sense. The Culture is still strong but its very niche (always was) but when you have TW, tanner, and others casually rolling into town people that don't normally care all of a sudden do, and that buildup of culture cultivates a fantastic atmosphere and bring a whole new life to the sport. So yeah exactly what your saying.
 
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