Kratom!!????

^^haha that edit was so sick but i want to know if kratom is actually good or if its just some dumb shit they do

 
Never done it, but talked to the good people at CCHQ in Vancouver and they told me:

Small dose stimulant effect, larger dose is an opiate/sedative effect.

I've also heard the stuff is fairly addictive so be careful what you're getting into. Some opiate addicts have successfully used it to quit other harder drugs.
 
thats what i was thinking. it seems like caffine/ sedative but theres gotta be a better reason why people do it
 
Yeah, kava java is great. It's like a threshhold dose of E if you have the equivalent of 2 shells and 3-4 cups of coffee.

Add Kanna to that, which is also similar to E, and you've got yourself ready to party: cheaply, safely, legally, and in a healthy way. Not a ton of people know about Kanna, it's sorta up-and-coming in smartshops in the US, but I've seen it on sale in Europe for a while now. Its a South African herb, consumed by the bushmen in the deserts for thousands of years; little is presently known about it. In my experiences I'd classify it as an Empathogen, as it intensifies emotional connection with others. It also keeps you from sleeping for a loooong time, lol.

I reccomend both.

If you do purchase Kratom, post your experiences with it here, I'd be interested to know. Some of my other entheogen-using buddies have tried it and only gotten a strikingly powerful sense of depression from it, and few positive effects. I myself haven't used it.
 
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Bump.

Basically this stuff is the shit (the source I buy from has very high quality Kratom). The premium Bali kind feels stimulating and sedating at the same time; it pretty much feels exactly like popping a few hydrocodones. It also keeps me away from using harder drugs (because my drug of choice is opiates of any kind).

Bottom line is this: if you like opiates, give this a try. It's surprising that it's legal. You'll be amazed if you find a good source. Keep it on the DL though, we don't want this harmless substance demonized and spread around the media like wildfire. Another thing, eat/drink it on an empty stomach or you pretty much won't feel it. Just spreading the information and love of this wonderful plant.
 
keep up the good choices, dont use opiates im telling u man....

my really good buddy just passed last week on a od. speedballing. once u start ur destruction path it will never end. im not a fan of opiates and neevr will be. ruins lives.

i got some khat. the other day and its great its liek a mix between blow and coffee. really hard to come by in the us tho.

good luck be safe and have fun
 
I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, I can't even imagine how hard that must have been for you and everyone who knew him... I'm trying to be a casual user but I realize that's almost impossible once you enter the realm of opiates. I am coming to learn that it's just a bad idea to use at all because of my personality (opiates make me feel perfect, which is why they scare me so much). Thanks for your encouraging words, man. Vibes and +K to you.
 
its the shit. pretty cheap and 100% legal. I havent experienced any of the addiction side effects really. took it pretty hard for about 2 weeks straight then ran out for another 2-3 weeks and was fine. The only really annoying side effect is that it causes you to be constipated, so get some smooth move tea or fiber chews.

also dont know if anyone else has experienced this but my friends and i tend to get a little more irritable when taking it sometimes. strange side effect so who knows.
 
just about (14 actually, but it makes no difference.) although, quite the mature 14 year old. No interest in ever trying weed or any other drug, alcohol hell yeah, but Im a classy fellow. Salvia just seems like something you should do before you die.
 
salvia is stupid... tastes like shit, weird fucking high, and unless you grow it, its stupidly expensive for what your getting, if you want to hallucinate once in your life i suggest you spend 10 dollars and try lsd. cheap and it will change your views entirely on life.

ps if you want to go hard in the paint..... deemsters
 
its less intense, but last for all fucking day.

weed is my drug of choice. this year ive been "experimenting" with e, molly, shrooms, and spice, andonly pot is satisfying for me.
 
wait at least a few years before you try it. if you are curious at all, you should start with smoking to get a feel for any sort of drug.
 
that's the thing, make fun of me if you wish, but I am NEVER going to smoke weed or smoke cigs, or any other drug, salvia seems like the only legal thing to try just because im curious about tripping. Acid seems a little intense and risky. Not to mention illegal.
 
a long time, dangerous though im not sure, ive seen people do way more retarded shit on salvia than on acid, if your curious about it just do it though, nothing is gonna make you less curious besides just trying it out (salvia, acid, shrooms or whatever)
 
if youre looking for a short, totally nuts trip, try and find some dmt. salvia is a really uncomfortable experience for a lot of people i find. dmt tends to connect, rather than isolate, the user.

or just dont do either.
 
i had the zipper trip. worst experience of my life. it was fucked. I felt like i was log rolling down rainbow road and couldnt stop. (fun at first, then realized i was doomed and it turned to chaos.)

my friend tried to get into a fridge pack of moutain dew.

other friend thought he was at the circus.

After you trip you feel disgusting. i wanted to get out of my own skin and it was fucked. be near a shower or something if you decide to try it.
 
double post but i garuntee you will come around to weed. i was the most straight edge kid until sophomore year. I went as far as to stick my head out the window of a car on the highway to avoid second hand smoke from friends burn cruising..

now im a pothead....

 
Then don't do any drugs. Salvia is fucking garbage. That's why it is not a problem that it is legal because most people don't do it more than once because it is so terrible.
 
i felt like i was retardedly stuck repeating a word with d on the end but i wasnt saying anything and then i kinda blacked out on the rest. It's not actually scary what you're thinking but its like a helpless retarded feeling and it makes most people pretty scared even though they usually laugh a lot

tip: take smaller potency salvia for a nicer, more fun trip. the stronger the shit the more intense and usually scary it is.
 
Trust me, a bunch of drug addicts writing about what they do best doesn't hold a candle to what NS could provide.
 
I personally have taken kratom more then a handful of times. Before skiing I would mix it in yogurt before skiing and eat it. After a good 25-30 minutes you get things started with a nice body hot. Not this is depending on what type vein kratom it is. I personally like green/white vein versus red. Red is more euphoric, green and white is more sedative aka painkiller like. Anyways the stuff tastes bitter initially, but once used to it/hooked you will love the taste :) I only eat kratom before skiing, well thus far. I'm about to go re-up on my favorite now, potent Indo
 
so youre 14 and you want to try hallucinogenics and psychoactives but you wont smoke pot.

da fuck?
 
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