hum thanks for the suggestions... i love em for just skiing around, they rule in crud and pow and on the groomers whoop whoop, but not so much for playing on. don't specially fancy K2s. i'm down for supporting the women's skis if any are worth a shot. yes, ok, i'll admit it, i guess the answer i want to hear is "get some ARWs." them so sexy. but will they make me happy?