K2 mounting graph

cobra_commander

cobra_commander

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Just to warn all people The graph on the side of k2 skis (at least the vicious) is about 2cm back. this means you should meassure the core to find out core center before you give them to your mounting shop and end up with tiny tails. :(
 
its because K2 measures their skis differently then most companies i forget how but i know they do
 
they put a prefectly straight stick next to the ski edge and find the point where the edge is farthest away, all ski companys do that they just adjust the sidecut so that core center and true center match
 
word.

the reps around here dont tell people about that stuff at sales and stuff, so in the winter there are a lot of kids with itty bitty tails
 
yeah. it really isn't too big of a deal.

My SV are mounted +4, so i guess really +2, and it is going to be fine. There is a lot of tail.
 
further more....

if a ski is a pro-model (like the seth viscous) the 0 mark should be where seth mounts them. thats the point of a pro-model... ski designed by and for said pro.

for a ski like the PE which is designed from the input of the factory team, you would think that the mounting point would reflect their input... therefore the whole team should not have to mount +7.5, that's a little rediculous. they should have put the 0 mark 7.5 inches closer to the center if thats the case.
 
that's a good idea. kind of like how on the STLS there is the recommended point where steele rides them.. and then a point 2 cm back.. and you know? i think it would be cool to have the +5 mark where seth skis them and the +7.5 mark where the team skis them. then you could just tell them 4 cm back from recommended or whatever. cool.
 
that would make sence the 0 is where they r ment to be mounted and if you want them more for all mtn you mount them back and for more park you mount them forward.
 
this doesnt really make sense, cuz i mounted mine at 5.5, and they are two cm back from the middle part of the ski
 
This claim doesn't make sense. K2's been shipping those skis since last January and not one single person has called in and said the mounting table was off...that means there are about 800 people with those ski who don't have an issue and this 1 kid who does...
 
here is seth's exact post on the k2 boards-

This winter while hanging out with McConkey, we were messuring some protos he had against some madians and found that the graph on the side is somewhat off of what the real center is, if you were truly going to center mount your skis. I am not trying to confuse any one with what I'm saying. From what we found by meassuring many different ways was that the graph is off by 2cm. I have been mounting my skis at +5 on the graph for a mid sole, when really it is only +3cm. So take it for what its worth. Stick with the graph for now, maybe it will change in the future. Truely you should always messure out you skis before getting them mounted to stay consistent with what you want for a mount. Forward mounting is still new to most people and shops, so use a tape and know before they are drilled. Sounds tech, but once you figure it out its no big deal, and if your on the board asking these questions you probably need to know these things.
 
no.. he is talking about the skis that are already out. not prototypes.

"I have been mounting my skis at +5 on the graph for a mid sole, when really it is only +3cm"
 
Believe whatever you want, I don't care. All I need to say is that nobody in the world is calling K2 to complain about mounting issues on the Seth's...
 
why would they be calling and complaining? i've measured mine out, and exactly half way between the skis is 14 cm forward of the midsole mark when K2 says is should be only 12.
 
Well in theory if people mounted at +3 and wanted to be at +3 but were actually at +1 they'd be pissed. If there were issues and shops were mounting skis in differnt locations than people expected then consumers would be pissed. But nobody is having problems with their mounting positions and nobody is pissed so nobody is complaining about the mounting tables being off.
 
i'm saying your graph is wrong no matter what, because either way, your midsole is not marked at 0.
 
first of all, seth skis the normal stock skis. He skis the same vicious you can buy in the store.

What he said was that while measure skis they figured out the graph was wrong. What is so hard to understand about that?

All the recommended binding mounts or +5 and such will still stay the same. That is where seth skis his skis. When actually measured, though, they are +3.

If you actually take the time to measure the ski out you will see this is correct, so stop trying to argue to other point when Morrison himself says what is up.
 
You know what would be fucking smart? If K2, Volkl, Armada, Line, 4Frnt, Rossi, Salomon, et al, all gave us accurate tech manuals with real info regarding alternative mounting positions, both forward and back. That way, there wouldn't be a million bullshit threads about mounting, and no bullshit mistakes about the graphic on the side of the ski being "off by 2cm". Just nice, easy to find info on mounting spots. Stuff like "+4 is true center", etc. It obviously differs from make to make, so each brand would have to put out their own, but it'd save everyone, especially shop people, a fuckload of time and effort.

Of course, this is skiing, so we can't do something like that until 3-5 years after snowboarding has done it. Though, if I remember correctly, we had a mounting chart for Armada 2 years ago...
 
there seriously only needs to be ONE line on the ski. core center. that's it, because true center is simple to find (divide the length of the ski by 2) and any other line would just be the manufacturer telling you a few places where you might want to mount your skis... which is dumb because everyone ends up mounting them forward a few cm's anyways. give me one line. core center. and then everyone will know what you mean by +2 or +1.5 or -4 or whatever.
 
ok so how do you measure out core center if the graph is off? all the old skis were 7.5 core and 12 center right
 
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