yea, the further you go forward, the less flat you have in the tail, and that seriously sucks. ruins the surprisingly good hardpack skiability. they are amazing skis centermounted. they dont get AS much float as if they were a lil back, but with that much rocker they pop up instantly anyway, and they never submarine or anything. and yes, if you are looking to charge, get the obsethed, it is a WAY, WAY better ski for shredding. bents hold their own for sure, but they ride like a good park ski, not something youd wanna be maching down chutes or anything. seths on the other hand are amazing, and still pretty capable in the jib dept. regardless, bents are still one of my all time fav skis.