Jeff 108, woodsman 110, or JJ?

MaimHelp

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Really struggling to figure out what “pow” skis I want for when I take trips to the western side of the state.

i want something that’s stable for hucking cliffs or flying through chop but also the ability to jump and be nimble in the trees.

im a solid skier but nothing near professional, 3s off side hits and grabs would be the only tricks I’d do.

I’m around 190 lbs and a hair over 5’11

all I’ve ever skied is park and I don’t know much about the wide boy skis so any input is necessary. also feel free to chime in and recommend a ski. These will be my trip skis or Pennsylvania pow day skis. Don’t plan on hitting many rails if at all on them

**This thread was edited on Jun 21st 2022 at 3:07:57pm
 
I'd go Jeff 110. If you're used to skiing park, the jeff 110 is going to feel more natural than the woodsman (more directional). I haven't skied the JJ but I think the Jeff 110 would be better if you're taking 1 ski on a trip, the JJ is kinda pow specific where the Jeff 110 will do well in pow as well as all mountain. ON3P build is great for chop and popping off side hits.
 
I’ve got some Slant skis in a 107. Full bamboo core with carbon fiber. That thing trucks. Many similarities with ON3P build except ON3P has bigger rocker. I find myself not using them as much anymore and using some Fauna Omnis (105 underfoot) because my legs get tired and my left knee starts aching with the pure bamboo slant skis. So, I imagine the ON3P will truck but could tire your legs too if you’re not used to them or have any sort of lingering injuries.

Then again, I’ve got a more energetic dynamic style so that could be part of why my legs get tired with a heavier ski
 
Going west does not mean you'll have deep pow. More likely you will not. Don't get the jj. Get one of the other two options for more versatility and they will be plenty wide for what you'll encounter.
 
Ended up snagging some 2020 Jeffery 108s for 550 on the factory finds. Did a lot of reading and as a park skier I think they are my best bet. My old mag 90s performed well out west too so I am confident a little more ski under me will make it even better.

im planning on mounting recommended, is there any other mount points that anyone would suggest? I thought about maybe one or two cm in front of recommended but then again I’m not gonna be riding these in the park so that’s probably not the best option
 
14445130:MaimHelp said:
Ended up snagging some 2020 Jeffery 108s for 550 on the factory finds. Did a lot of reading and as a park skier I think they are my best bet. My old mag 90s performed well out west too so I am confident a little more ski under me will make it even better.

im planning on mounting recommended, is there any other mount points that anyone would suggest? I thought about maybe one or two cm in front of recommended but then again I’m not gonna be riding these in the park so that’s probably not the best option

Good choice and a nice price. I'm out west and it's my favorite ski. Jeff has somewhat of a large sweet spot. You could +1 or +2 if you wanted but personally I wouldn't go past that as it wasn't how the ski was designed. If you're used to center mounted skis, go +2, otherwise go on the line. But this is newschoolers and there's plenty of people who will say center or nothing hah
 
14445130:MaimHelp said:
Ended up snagging some 2020 Jeffery 108s for 550 on the factory finds. Did a lot of reading and as a park skier I think they are my best bet. My old mag 90s performed well out west too so I am confident a little more ski under me will make it even better.

im planning on mounting recommended, is there any other mount points that anyone would suggest? I thought about maybe one or two cm in front of recommended but then again I’m not gonna be riding these in the park so that’s probably not the best option

From reading how you want to use the ski and from the fact that you considered a Woodsman I would recommend mounting on the line or +1cm at the most. I used to mount my Jefferies (when they were known as Kartels) forward of the line, +2cm on a 181 but this was for skiing park. It made a great park ski that also was all mountain capable. Lately I've been mounting the Jeffrey on the line as I ski less and less park and the skis work great on the line, they also still ski well switch. I have a little harder time with nose butters but I think that has more to do with the stiffer layup one one pair or the Shift bindings on the other pair than it has to do with mount point. I didn't notice a great difference in swing weight but I hardly ever rotate over 360 anymore.
 
(I own the Jeffrey 108s with the 50/50 layup, so they will be slightly different)

The J108s are incredible skis and are exactly what I wanted, which was a playful yet stable ski that I could hit drops and side hits on but wouldn't wash out or get thrown around when the snow was cruddy. I only got 5 days on them last year on the some of the worst snow NZ has had in ages and then the country went into lockdown, but they held up extremely well on the ice and low tide conditions considering the width and rocker. I was tossing up between the W108 and J108 and decided to go Jeffrey because it seemed the more playful of the two.
 
14445130:MaimHelp said:
Ended up snagging some 2020 Jeffery 108s for 550 on the factory finds. Did a lot of reading and as a park skier I think they are my best bet. My old mag 90s performed well out west too so I am confident a little more ski under me will make it even better.

im planning on mounting recommended, is there any other mount points that anyone would suggest? I thought about maybe one or two cm in front of recommended but then again I’m not gonna be riding these in the park so that’s probably not the best option

Def mount recommended at -4. Seems like a lot coming from a park ski but I went through the same thought process years ago and went with rec and it almost feels like a center mount and will make the ski ride optimally.
 
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