Is there a way to see avalanche danger for your area?

i am sorry that we had this confusion.

i know it has to sound like suicide to you when transported your skiing to me and i can understand that, but i am not going deep deep and steep steep where noone ever was on a southeastern slope.

to you its maybe lame, but i like it the way it is and i get nice powder.

i never said that education is bad and i know what i have to do when i once in a while ride something "more risky". but i didnt lie to you in the other post. thats how we do it on a regular day.
 
To be clear, I am not criticizing you, where you ski, or the terrain that you happen to ski. If you are enjoying yourself and getting some powder, props to you man. That's what the sport is all about.

It's just the way that you are going about explaining your experiences and knowledge. Maybe things are not being clearly communicated over the internet?
 
yes i know that and never said otherwise.

and i know that 4 tracks dont make it safe. 10 maybe also not. but if the whole hill was fucking bombed and it snows on that its goddamnit safe. ask some people who know a thing or two about that.

i am not one of the tools who sees 1 line going in somewhere and assume its safe.

comon guys, just stop now with twisting my words.
 
I definitely could be wrong but i'm assuming 90% of the people posting in this thread don't even get out in the backcountry at all and are probably chairlifters at heart! bhahahahahahahha
 
Holy fuckin shit show.

Lots of good points and word twisting on both sides here. Everybody needs to eat a snickers bar and chill the F out a bit cause it's becoming a bunch of professional style dick waving in here.

Sure Fen is being a bit lax about it, but he sounds like he's playing it safe. He never told anyone to NOT get classes or info of a site. To me it just sounds like he's saying to err on the side of caution if you have a bad gut feeling.

Sounds like huck would have you believe he's 20th level avy trained and digs a pit every 100 yards while skiing east coast trees.

If we concentrated more on having actual back and forth factual dialogue this could be an informational helpful thread instead of 2 pages of you guys smacking each other with your dicks.

I'm starting to think, NS is NS and TGR is TGR and never the twain shall meet. Lets try and behave like strong men here.
 
Stop feeling bad for yourself. Nobody's twisting your words, you're just being a moron and we don't want to see you get yourself or someone else killed assuming you or your friends know what you're talking about. Stop acting like the victim of a cruel prank and grow the fuck up already. You're making very dangerous assumptions in a very dangerous place and you got called out for it- you can either be a baby about it and whine about people being mean to you or you can take the advice that might save a life. Get a clue before the mountain gives you one in the form of a cyanotic best friend. You won't get a second chance. That is all.

Carry on.

 
You beat up Freshman as a Senior didn't you, I'd bet on it.

Yeah guys, check, double check, and learn as much as you can so you can be as safe as possible when in dangerous situations. So says the guy that grinds steel without safety glasses on, but it's cool he's been doing it since he was young and nothing can go wrong.
 
Lol... Quite the opposite, actually.

Also, during the incident in question I had safetys on, but have since upgraded in lieu of my subsequent reeducation- I now sleep with safety glasses on and when I wake up I put on a full face shield immediately. You never know when a grinder might fly in hot from left field hahaha you can never be too careful!
 
oh eurobrah got mad 10% game

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Good thing god takes care of old folks and fools a link to that imaginary newspaper with these dubious avvy fatalities statistics would be interesting.

Bummed to be attending the 2nd avvy statistic funeral of the season.

Personally I don't think abs would have helped JP or my bro AL and the latter knew a hell of a lot more but is just as dead
 
A well maybe you got me wrong. All I was trying to say is that you shouldt rely alone one the stuff based in the internet. Of course to get a general opinion about the current situation and conditions those websites are great and everyone should use them.

What I meant was that just because some website says its safe, it doesnt have to be safe in reality.

 
If your're sayin low don't mean no wellxposted

{Quote}So as much as I would have liked to ski soli and meet and put a few faces to the maggot handles. When your first steady touring partner asks you to tour on his b/day I'm there. We had tried to summit Box Elder Pk a year ago from Dry Creek before weather turned crappy. Josh another rock solid partner and my wife arrived at Tibble Creek ~ 8:00 the temp was ~ 5. In the parking lot we ran into a party of 3 one who had patroled w/ my friend James. P,T and a splitboarder whos name I can't recall, who were planning on skiing Box Elder. They started first and tried skinning the SE facing hiking trail and soon bailed due to boilerplate ice.

gearing up
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Timp o the morning

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Sloggin out the skin

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The second group would catch up as we would leaving breaks.

After ~5 1/2 hours we gained the Dry/Deer creek ridgeline.From there we continued up though the protected trees above the shotgun chutes.

Looking NW from saddle
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The last 1000' the skin track got ugly and icey

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We bootered in a few spots and eventually all gained the summit.

While chillin up top a party of two came up (from dry creek) making 9.

Some summit shots

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And one for the guy making the snow and getting to it more enjoyable hope your not still stuck in Quebec

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So the now 7 in our party decided to not ski from the summit but down a few 100' feet James Josh and P got ready to drop in James cut 1st and Josh cut the slope above him. Splitter stayed on the ridge above watching My wife has a fear of exposures and was pretty scetched and near tears as we worked down the ridgeline to access the low cut/traverse James had put in.T was working his way down w/ us.

Bam shit hits the fan James had skiied down to the top of the gully and Josh was skiers right and above in a safe zone of trees. P made about 6 turns before he released a wind loaded hard slab and started on the avvy ride. I was back of the ridge helping the wife booter down and wondering if I had got her in terrain above her ability. Splitter witnessed the slide from above and J&J were watching from their safe zones. I rushed to the edge in time to see the last 1000' of a 3000' slide . Kind of like watching shit on the discovery channel. So now it stops I cant see or hear anyone below. I call out and no one answers.things kind of go into slow mo from here. I want to drop in and find out if every one is ok, but I am unable to see the top of the slide path and have no idea if there is hang fire or wher my partners are. T decides to call 911 as we have cell sevice on the ridge but will not as soon as we drop in. This was a good call as it would not be right to set off a slide of that magnitude and not report it till later. It was late in the day and no one could say with certainty there was no one on the skin track below us. My Wfe tried to call J&J to no avail. I decided to drop in on their ski cuts and was able to call out to Josh who thankfully let me know that P had gone for a long ride(~1500') lost a ski and poles and had injured his knee. I relayed this info to Split T and Pam still on the ridge. The two others skied down and talked to T who was still on the phone w/ SAR. josh skied down the slide path to P and they were able to spot his ski and direct me to it . The rest of the crew took turns skiing down from safe zone to safe zone until we all converged and took stock of the situation. P was alright shaken upnd complaining of knee pain. we gave him some poles and decided that the 5 of them should start to ski out the slide path and Josh and I would hang back and sweep the slide path with our beacons recieving. . I probably shouldn't have been still taking pics butthings seemed alright so here are a few.

Looking down from the top of the slide

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I belive the slide statred just below the trees in the foreground Josh was skiers right in the lower trees.

Another

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Looking back up @ the crown

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For the most part the crowns were 1-2' as the snow ripped down the gulliy it would tear out crowns in this range

P skiing down

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a few more shots of the slide path.

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Josh sweeping the bottom

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The disposition zone at the bottom of the slide
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By this time SAR had a plane in the air and were sooned joined by lifeflight. We tried to signal to them using the patting of the head and thumbsup that we were all ok, they landed and talked to one of us concerning the other party of Two who dropped back into Dry Creek (Alpine).

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We get down to the trailhead to find a full SAR callout. We tell our story and do a breifing . The Fox news van shows up and since They "got change for a nickel" I gave em a few sound bites and a big thanks to SAR alhough they editted the change for a nickel comments and refered to BC skiing as cheating death they did a nice blurb .

A few obs Snow stability was checked on test slopes and discussed several times. We all felt conditoins were safe that day. Low don't mean no. I had left my avalung home that day, which I won't do again. I am not a big fan of portable radios (beater phones) but they would have come in handy in this situation. The addition of 3 to our group changed things and I trusted J&Js & Ps judgement as to where they dropped in, But we didn't have a solid plan as to what and where we were all going to ski. I was concerned with my wife and the situation I had put her in so I may have missed this discussion.

I'm just glad P was alright and we all learned a lot this tour.{quote}

Well yeah

 
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