Is Eileen Gu an industry plant?

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she’s supa cool don’t get me wrong but I’ve heard this conversation a lot, what does the ns fam think?
 
is it even possible to be an industry plant?

i believe the her criticism comes from choosing to compete for china in the olympics when she’s an american citizen, used american facilities, etc. i don’t think she’s “cool” but industry plant doesn’t make any sense, you can’t buy skills.

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14604851:Jems said:
is it even possible to be an industry plant?

i believe the her criticism comes from choosing to compete for china in the olympics when she’s an american citizen, used american facilities, etc. i don’t think she’s “cool” but industry plant doesn’t make any sense, you can’t buy skills.

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Well she does come from money but i genuinely don’t know, some of my friends are always saying that
 
14604852:Jibgurl said:
Well she does come from money but i genuinely don’t know, some of my friends are always saying that
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so does every pro skier, she’s just a celebrity who doesn’t represent park skiing in the way that most of us would like.
 
14604851:Jems said:
is it even possible to be an industry plant?

i believe the her criticism comes from choosing to compete for china in the olympics when she’s an american citizen, used american facilities, etc. i don’t think she’s “cool” but industry plant doesn’t make any sense, you can’t buy skills.

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Thats what I was thinking.

I don't even understand how an industry plant in skiing would work. Its more used for talentless singers planted and made popular with a team of writers and autotune etc. You can't autotune dubs lmao

If you're using it in the sense that her parents are extremely rich and used connections to get her training, sponsors and grow her abilities......well then, I am sorry to break it to you but pretty much every pro skier is an industry plant in that case lmao
 
14604851:Jems said:
you can’t buy skills.

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Skills also don't appear out of nowhere. Need a ton of money for coaching, relocation to somewhere with good facilities, costs of accessing facilities, costs of travelling for year-round training, cost of gear, etc, etc, etc. Becoming an Olympic athlete in a sport like skiing is not for the poor.

No idea what industry plant means though. That makes no sense.
 
14604855:corona said:
Skills also don't appear out of nowhere. Need a ton of money for coaching, relocation to somewhere with good facilities, costs of accessing facilities, costs of travelling for year-round training, cost of gear, etc, etc, etc. Becoming an Olympic athlete in a sport like skiing is not for the poor.

No idea what industry plant means though. That makes no sense.
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If you’re not built for skiing you can’t pay your way into becoming a professional. Industry plant is a negative term used to describe musicians who become popular through nepotism, inheritance, wealth, or their connections in the music industry rather than on their own merits. This doesn’t really apply to sports unless you’re into motorsports.
 
Anyone with a large platform/resources that shows up out of nowhere, with little to no talent, could be considered an industry plant. ie. music industry. Ellien is arguably the best at what she does rn. So not a plant imo

However, I think the Chinese government saw that she was becoming the best(both 2021 xgames superpark and pipe gold) and decided to plant her themselves in 2022. She definitely getting big money from them
 
I think she's an industry plant in the way that she's super PR trained and in a sort of character at all times in front of a camera, but definitely an entirely different person off camera. Someone made a thread once about her being super unapproachable and surrounded by security when they met her at hyland??? i could be wrong
 
14604852:Jibgurl said:
Well she does come from money but i genuinely don’t know, some of my friends are always saying that
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Eh, coming from money helps but you can't buy the balls big enough to chuck meat in icy pipe the way she does. Same way Meg Oldham comes from money but no amount of generstional wealth would ever convince me to Chuck a triple cork at X games
 
Saw Eileen gu once in nyc a couple years ago on my way back to Long Island. Looked like a robot so maybe
 
Can't really be an industry plant and the best skier in her discipline.

But she was definitely groomed from a young age to be exactly who she is. She has a very curated image and it seems like her whole life was planned out just so she could get chinese modeling gigs.

She's a terrible representative for freeskiing and i really hope other women skiers step up and knock her down a few pegs (or off a cliff. Fuck all CCP shills)
 
To answer some questions, my best understanding of ‘industry plants’ is essentially when someone with some level of talent is heavily pushed through advertising or media by a record label as they believe they can produce a large amount of success or profits. Now using this definition does translate somewhat over, as essentially someone who is talented but gets to be the head of advertising and marketing without really feeling like a real or sincere person. Aka PR robot. And I do agree that there are many better options for the face of both freestyle skiing and women’s skiing.
 
Weird take, but yeah, Eileen Gu sort of is an industry plant...just not in the ski industry. Her involvement with the fashion industry is more or less a result of her being an amazing skier who happens to fit the criteria that a lot of modeling agencies are looking for. So rather than making it "from the bottom" as a model, she has been able to leverage her skiing skills to get her into the industry based on notoriety elsewhere. I don't know Eileen and I have no idea how hard she worked to do runways/how passionate she is about that, but I would bet that at some point in time, her agency connections in snowsports opened the door to the modeling industry for her in a significant way.

I do want to stress that I don't think this detracts from Eileen in any way. She's an unreal skier, and she's also a really talented model. Everyone I know who has ever ridden with her has positive things to say, and I think it's totally appropriate for talented skiers to monetize their identity in lateral ways to snowsports since the ski and board industry values their professional athletes less than pretty much any other sport.
 
14604943:hank.ski said:
Weird take, but yeah, Eileen Gu sort of is an industry plant...just not in the ski industry. Her involvement with the fashion industry is more or less a result of her being an amazing skier who happens to fit the criteria that a lot of modeling agencies are looking for. So rather than making it "from the bottom" as a model, she has been able to leverage her skiing skills to get her into the industry based on notoriety elsewhere. I don't know Eileen and I have no idea how hard she worked to do runways/how passionate she is about that, but I would bet that at some point in time, her agency connections in snowsports opened the door to the modeling industry for her in a significant way.

I do want to stress that I don't think this detracts from Eileen in any way. She's an unreal skier, and she's also a really talented model. Everyone I know who has ever ridden with her has positive things to say, and I think it's totally appropriate for talented skiers to monetize their identity in lateral ways to snowsports since the ski and board industry values their professional athletes less than pretty much any other sport.
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Best take I've heard. GuGu acts like she doesn't even like skiing. She's like skiing's Nikola Jokic. Shows up, wins, then flies back to country of origin to reap benefits of being world class at something they don't give a shit about.

She's the type of skier to get police permission to hit a street spot.

God I hate her so much.
 
14604968:stokedelic said:
Best take I've heard. GuGu acts like she doesn't even like skiing. She's like skiing's Nikola Jokic. Shows up, wins, then flies back to country of origin to reap benefits of being world class at something they don't give a shit about.

She's the type of skier to get police permission to hit a street spot.

God I hate her so much.
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You obviously didn't read my take then because I said that she's fucking rad and I know from the testimony of people close to her that she works her ass off to be as good as she is. Sorta sounds like you're just hate obsessing over what she posts on the gram buddy, nobody gets as good as she is without passion and dedication. She's the type of skier to allocate millions of dollars of non-endemic value toward our athletes in our industry just off of her reputation, and she doesn't seem to be a street skier, so why bother with weird hypotheticals.
 
Imma do this thread a favour and put this link here and I think everyone would find it interesting learning a bit more about her. Sure its still got cringe redbull editing but it gives you a little insight on what her life was and is like.
=RedBullSnow

Say what you want but as far as I can see shes an inspiration for me on what it can look like to pursue my passion and do well in school. Not picking one.

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14605018:hank.ski said:
You obviously didn't read my take then because I said that she's fucking rad and I know from the testimony of people close to her that she works her ass off to be as good as she is. Sorta sounds like you're just hate obsessing over what she posts on the gram buddy, nobody gets as good as she is without passion and dedication. She's the type of skier to allocate millions of dollars of non-endemic value toward our athletes in our industry just off of her reputation, and she doesn't seem to be a street skier, so why bother with weird hypotheticals.
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i mean, jokic is fucking dope lol. dude definitely works his ass off too. i didn’t say she doesn’t work her ass off, i was implying she’s in skiing for the business side of things.

i more so hate that she’s so good and the industry lights shine straight on her (for obvious reasons) while a lot of other people who truly love skiing (Dasha shot a ski film on her honeymoon for fucks sake) kinda get glazed over on the main stage.
 
No, as others pointed out, no company can purchase your path to success, at least to the extent of musicians. Did access to money help her become a pro skier? yes but the same can be said for basically all pro skiers who compete.

I did read an article that quoted one of her old coaches. I just looked and couldn't find it, but I specifically remember he mentioned her mom being a "tiger mom" who basically pushed for eileen to get more attention from the coach. Reading between the lines it seems like her mom had plans from near the beginning for eileen to compete and excel in skiing from a pretty early age. I'd speculate that she probably had more pressure/encouragement than most skiers who compete today.
 
topic:Jibgurl said:
she’s supa cool don’t get me wrong but I’ve heard this conversation a lot, what does the ns fam think?
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she skied for our number one national enemy when in reality shes completely american. sus af
 
14605047:percs said:
she skied for our number one national enemy when in reality shes completely american. sus af
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Bro straight up who cares. Homegirl put on a silly Anta jacket and a Tiffany bracelet and walked away from the Olympics with this much money to clip in and ski some runs.
 
CCP apologist bullshit. She's the worst sellout i know of in skiing. Honestly I'd respect her more if she just did porn like Lisa Zimmerman or THall. She's not just skiing out herself, but her coaches, teachers, friends, and anybody else that were important in her life in the US.

14605050:Yukon_Cornelius said:
Bro straight up who cares. Homegirl put on a silly Anta jacket and a Tiffany bracelet and walked away from the Olympics with this much money to clip in and ski some runs.
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14605053:SlushSeason said:
CCP apologist bullshit. She's the worst sellout i know of in skiing. Honestly I'd respect her more if she just did porn like Lisa Zimmerman or THall. She's not just skiing out herself, but her coaches, teachers, friends, and anybody else that were important in her life in the US.
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Hey big dog

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14605053:SlushSeason said:
CCP apologist bullshit. She's the worst sellout i know of in skiing. Honestly I'd respect her more if she just did porn like Lisa Zimmerman or THall. She's not just skiing out herself, but her coaches, teachers, friends, and anybody else that were important in her life in the US.
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Shut up there is zero money going around for pro free skiers. She's actually good.

I don't think its that big of a group of truly elite free skiers men or women it sucks most can't earn decent money. The second rung whatever as the dropoff gets noticeable quick.
 
14605053:SlushSeason said:
CCP apologist bullshit. She's the worst sellout i know of in skiing. Honestly I'd respect her more if she just did porn like Lisa Zimmerman or THall. She's not just skiing out herself, but her coaches, teachers, friends, and anybody else that were important in her life in the US.
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14604943:hank.ski said:
Weird take, but yeah, Eileen Gu sort of is an industry plant...just not in the ski industry. Her involvement with the fashion industry is more or less a result of her being an amazing skier who happens to fit the criteria that a lot of modeling agencies are looking for. So rather than making it "from the bottom" as a model, she has been able to leverage her skiing skills to get her into the industry based on notoriety elsewhere. I don't know Eileen and I have no idea how hard she worked to do runways/how passionate she is about that, but I would bet that at some point in time, her agency connections in snowsports opened the door to the modeling industry for her in a significant way.

I do want to stress that I don't think this detracts from Eileen in any way. She's an unreal skier, and she's also a really talented model. Everyone I know who has ever ridden with her has positive things to say, and I think it's totally appropriate for talented skiers to monetize their identity in lateral ways to snowsports since the ski and board industry values their professional athletes less than pretty much any other sport.
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What does it mean to be talented as a model? Does it take something else other than looking good, and for some taking plastic surgeries?
 
14605047:percs said:
she skied for our number one national enemy when in reality shes completely american. sus af
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Fuck the national enemy shit, honestly. China fucking sucks but it doesn’t need to be in a war hawk way. They’re just prolific human rights abusers, thieves, bullies and manipulators. She chose money over conscience. She skis for China because they probably pay her a ton of money indirectly through Chinese market brand deals.
 
14605079:-eREKTion- said:
Fuck the national enemy shit, honestly. China fucking sucks but it doesn’t need to be in a war hawk way. They’re just prolific human rights abusers, thieves, bullies and manipulators. She chose money over conscience. She skis for China because they probably pay her a ton of money indirectly through Chinese market brand deals.
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i dont think you realize how real Chinas attacks on the united states are DAILY. theres a reason why the vast majority of all our taxes go to military. Look i dont like sounding like that guy but its completely normal and important to care about politics like that as an informed citizen.
 
14605108:ProfessorOak said:
yall actin like you wouldn’t be doing the exact same thangs if you were in her position
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i can say for sure I would never ski for china. or any other country tbh. but def not china. and I doubt any principled person wouldn't, either.
 
Most of our taxes don't go to the military. Entitlements are by far the largest chuck. But yeah china is the real deal. My job wouldn't need to exist if it weren't for Chinese aggression

14605107:percs said:
i dont think you realize how real Chinas attacks on the united states are DAILY. theres a reason why the vast majority of all our taxes go to military. Look i dont like sounding like that guy but its completely normal and important to care about politics like that as an informed citizen.
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14605079:-eREKTion- said:
Fuck the national enemy shit, honestly. China fucking sucks but it doesn’t need to be in a war hawk way. They’re just prolific human rights abusers, thieves, bullies and manipulators. She chose money over conscience. She skis for China because they probably pay her a ton of money indirectly through Chinese market brand deals.
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Was she ever offered a spot on the us team?
 
yes, one of the best girl park skiers ever is a ""plant."" i can't wait til they ""plant"" more girls who can dub cork both ways

i wonder what science and witchcraft they used to make her so much better at skiing than everyone here. very underhanded stuff i'm sure
 
14605129:SlushSeason said:
Most of our taxes don't go to the military. Entitlements are by far the largest chuck. But yeah china is the real deal. My job wouldn't need to exist if it weren't for Chinese aggression
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lmao where were u educated? ur talking to a poly sci major BTW

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14605262:JalmarKalmar said:
Can't wait to see what [tag=292959]@Jibbcore[/tag] thinks about that
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I think she sold out to China. Yes she gets alot of money but China is a dictatorship and i dont think she should represent it. It would be one thing if she actually had been living her life there but shes not.
 
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