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Dude, it's not fun when you have repeated the same arguement over and over and over again. There are no less than 10 threads about this same thing which we've argued over again and again.

And Jizack, seriously, lay the fuck off man, I don't bother you, don't fucking bother me.

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send the UN inspectors to the states and lets see what type of weponary they have. I more scared of the states than anyother country. how many nukes do you guys have? i would think enough to blow up the world a couple times. and how about chemical or bio warfare? don't tell me that you guys don't have that. the us keeps stock piling weapons while they tell every other country to get rid of their nukes and weapons, its time the US cuts back on their weapons

'proud citzen of the NS Isle'

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your right and wrong. the US does not keep stock piling as we have reduced the amount of nukes by more than 90% since the standoff with russia. BUT it is true that we have more nukes than other countries, but we are not a terrorist nation. we do not kill and prey on the innocent. neither does the UK for ie and they too have plenty of nukes. The problem is countries with little or no regulation have nukes meaning that anyone and their brother could get their hands on them (ie terrorists). thats why we need to get nukes out of the hands of alot of countries. the US doesnt threaten to shoot nukes at other countries and they do not allow them to be sold to your crazy uncle bob.(ie how N.Korea said they could without a doubt hit the west coast of the US with a nuke). you can look at it on a lesser scale by using guns as an example. GUN ARE LEGAL. so say your dad has a liscence and a gun. then say the guy down the street who pops pills on a daily basis and has a nice twitch also owns a gun. who do you think should be monitored the most? or who should even have their gun taken away?

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I realize what you are saying about the states and having all of these weapons themselves, but I seriously want to know if you honestly think that they are all of a sudden going to up and use them?

Tell me something. Do you like the police? When you drink in public or they pull you over you hate them right? Everyone does. Now think of this in global terms. The US are the police, and someone has to do it. So no one likes them. Why do we need global police? Ask Slobadan Miloscevic. Or maybe Kuwait. And many others. Policing isnt easy and someone has to do it, or you my friend wouldnt be reading this right now.

Are you scared that a police officer will ever just point their gun at you and fire. Not me. And like I already said, policing isnt easy. Whos telling the truth and who isnt. Who is crazy enough to fire back at the police when they are not looking? These are decisions that have to be made fast and yes, ever once in a while someone screws up. The States definetly arent perfect, but Im quite sure I would rather have them policing the globe, rather than my buddy Stallin, or Hitler.

Or would you prefer the States going back into their isolationist policies, as they were before the first world war? Well, they got ragged on then too, because the world didnt like how the US didnt contribute globally, and was isolationist.

I believe that over the next five years or so the Bush administration has pledged 13 billion to help the African aids crisis. Ohhhhhhh, but I thought the spent it all on their military. The military they have to have to protect themselves from the people who dont like the US mingling in other peoples business. Are you seeing the irony here? So the US, according to some, should not be allowed to be in others peoples business, which already explained, has to be done by somebody. So instead of putting more money towards actually helping other countries, which they really dont have to do to begin with, they have to put it into a military to protect themselves from people who dont like the fact that the US isnt 'minding their own business' in the first place. Yet at the same time have others complain about how little the US is doing to help the world, which like already said, doesnt have to be done in the first place. Is Iraq sending aid to Africa? Was Afganistan the first to send aid to Central America after thier massive hurricane. India or Pakistan? Some of the richest countries- Yemen or Saudia Arabia? Dont believe so. Its not their problem right? So why should they care. They are too busy doing some fucked up shit in their own countries, or trying to fight the plague- still. But heavens no, if the US or Nato or even the UN feels that something should be done, to in the long run, help that country.

This is just opinion here, but In my eyes this actually all boils down to religion. Not saying its good or bad, but this is what it seems: The muslim world is extremely faithful to what they believe in. If you believe in something, you think its the best and the way it should be. Now who has the better quality of life and standard of living? The west who are mainly Christian oriented, or the Middle east (muslim world.) Im not saying that either religion is better than the other, but it would seem that many muslim people feel jealousy, therefore, hatred toward the west, mainly the States, as their lifestyle is better, even though their beliefs, in a Islamic persons eyes, are not. I'll try to put this in simpler terms. Lets say you own a car, and you really like to race, and you believe with all your heart that your car is the best and nothing will beat it. Along comes someone who doesnt really seem to care overly much about their car and has devoted near as much time to making it good. Yet in a race you lose. This would piss you off right? Im thinking yes.

What im trying to say in this incredibly long rant is basically this. The US is in the right, and almost always are. Their current position as the worlds superpower puts them in circumstances where they are in no way able to please everyone, yet are working at common goal of making the world a better place.

 
Powder, go read the terms of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, there are a reason things are the way they are in the modern world. Jesus Christ there is a lot of litigation behind why the US has things and why other countries don't. And by the way I'm pretty sure Russia has the largest nuclear aresenal.

 
Sim why should the US think that they could just become the global police? we have the UN for a reason, But for the UN to ork you have to respect there descions and wait untill they say you can invade another country. One country can not try to police the world it doesn't work, you need a colaltion of countries which is the UN. But when you don't respect there athoirity and try to bend the rules shit like his happens. Its like the us thinks that they are higher up than everyone else

'proud citzen of the NS Isle'

BE YOURSELF
 
the US carries a little more nukes than the rest of the world, how about 30 times the amount than all of the other contrys combined! and any way iraq has 1950's russian tanks, there nuclear threat is just a myth,I dont agree with this war, I think it will lead to more distruction and is avoidable. So you can bitch and argue all you want but its like the special olympics, even if you win YOUR STILL RETARDED!

Timbo Jones isnt even my real name.
 
powder99....the UN is the USA. We(USA) started the UN in order to make people like you happy. the USA provides 75% of the funding that goes into the UN. Without the USA there is no UN.

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none the less, the un should be more organised and more of the stuff that goes on should be talked by all nations not just the western nations.....than i rolled a blunt

Timbo Jones isnt even my real name.
 
the US isn't any less of a terrorist nation than iraq, palestine, israel, etc etc.. ever heard of chile, el salvador, columbia, vietnam.. ? i suppose it isn't genocide, but it is state sponsored mass murder. one day, there will be a final judgement, and i will happily perish with the knowledge that i attempted to contribute as little as possible to the segregation of the rich and the poor.

sean 'p. diddy/puff daddy' combs once remarked - 'it's all about the benjamins'. truethat mr. combs... truethat.

 
If the UN is the US then I think I will go jump off the bridge, because I'm quite sure the last bit of sanity in the world was just ripped from my fingers.

 
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