Iphone for verizon

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I was talking to my uncle, who's company (http://www.savantav.com/) works in partnership with Apple, and he said apple's contract with AT&T expires january 1st of 2010, and that Apple plans to introduce a brand new iphone specifically for Verizon, when said contract expires. But they will still have one for AT&T.
i googled and found nothing on this, so i'm wondering if he's just plain wrong, or if they just haven't announced it yet.
can anyone confirm this?
 
There have definatley been talks about something like this. The iphone is losing a huge market share by limiting itself to at&t, so it would not surprise me in the least.
 
if this is true, im stokedthats when i get my upgrade.
and i wouldnt be surprised if it was true...apple doesn't like to announce things
 
i heard this a while ago, i asked the verizon guy in like august when i was getting a new phone and he said "all i can say is that nothing has been officially said" so yeah.its coming.
 
this has been rumored for the last few years, always with the following year inserted. Im not holding my breath..

also, anyone hear that valve is going to update tf2 for xbox? hardy har har
 
old news.

its been rumored for so long now

but who cares, DROID THIS FRIDAY!!!!! shits gonna be so hot, i cant fucking waiiiiit
 
It's possible for the feature yes. No one knows when the contract ends, it was never announced by att or apple. The dates are just rumors. It was said to be a five year contract and it has only been three. But again, thats just rumor. They would have to design a whole new phone due to Verizon using CDMA and not GSM. Plus, I bet apple is not happy about Verizons advertising against the iPhone with the Droid.
 
verizon has a iphone like phone now, its by htc or something, its pretty sweet my friend has it, it has a wifi receiver in it like the touch ipod so you dont have to pay for internet or anything
 
apple has already stated that the EARLIEST the iphone could be on another carrier is 2012
 
yeah doesn't the droid come out on friday? which is supposed to "kill" the iphone? that whole commercial is filled with anti-iphone

iDon't have a real keyboard

IDon't take 5-megapixel pictures

etc etc.

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you sure it has wi-fi? i have an HTC phone on a verizon plan. i did get it about a year ago and the wi-fi feature was disabled. other carriers allowed it but not verizon
 
i had so much hope for the pre....only to have my dreams crushed. janky slide. shitty battery life. small screen. fuck you palm. ive been a loyal customer since the 600. give me something good!!
 
I've heard a lot of rumors about it, but I have ATT so I could really care less in the end. I had Verizon before they revamped their service from shit to good, and it was so bad back then that I couldn't get service standing in front of my house in the middle of Colorado Springs.
 
I like AT&T far better than Verizon. The Verizon phones and menus are much more confusing than an AT&T phone ever was- high end or low end phone. Plus, Verizon has shitty service where I live.
 
idk is it this one i posted? or is it the one that they arnt retailing anymore? none other, my friend probably messed with his so he could use the wifi, he's sorta a haxor like that lol
 
it's like the exact opposite for me. AT&T is absolutely horrible where I live. literally everyone has verizon
 
The AT&T network is being too slowed down and burdened by so many iphones on it. Apple is not happy with the AT&T network. Most likely will launch iPhone for Verizon in February
 
Iphones and smartphones are dope, but so fucking expensive, i have a laptop for a reason.
 
I assume by AT&T you mean apple. Also, I said "most likely" but they haven't signed with Verizon yet so Verizon can do whatever they want to gain more market share during Q4 (the quarter in which most cell phones are sold)
 
im not hating at all but really ya'll should do the rounds on the apple blogs... cause there is some nutty stuff floating around here.

a verizon exec said smear campaign aside they would love to have an iphone on board.

and 3rd gen iphones have already been picked up in the san fran area, at&t and wifi.

www.macrumors.com
 
not if apple opens the iphone to all carriers, then it could sign literally only weeks before with Verizon since 4g iphones have already been tested on all 4g carriers.
 
Not anymore, Verizon took it to congress and they said that verizon would have a monopoly on the cell phone network because everyone would leave at&t. Just have to chill with the blackberries
 
yea I was gonna say if Verizon got the Iphone EVERYONE would switch to verizon. Just get an ipod touch. Blackberry tour is a sick phone, and BBM is incredible...also, battery lasts way longer.
 
Apple isnt losing much because I can guarantee you ATT is paying a shit ton of money to exclusively sell them. Plus I bet ATT make no money off the phone itself because ATT will get a lot to switch to their contracts and upping contracts to use them. So both are benefitting greatly from the exclusive deal. When they expand there will be a surge of them bought but it will die down.
 
Yeah, most people have AT&T where I live, and everyone I know that has Verizon hates it so much. My friend's Blackberry storm is slow as fuck compared to my iPhone.
 
yes. this is completely correct. apple ISS dropping an iphone with verizon. its happening early 2010. their contract with apple expires in january. my cousins friend is the manager of marketing for verizon. its happening.
 
Why Apple Will Finally Break Its AT&T iPhone Exclusive Next Year (AAPL, T, VZ)

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Waiting for an iPhone on Verizon? It probably won't be much longer.

We think Apple will dump its AT&T exclusive next year and start selling phones on more U.S. carriers -- especially Verizon Wireless, the nation's largest -- by next year.

Unless AT&T has been able to renew its exclusive agreement with Apple -- which we doubt, given how poor AT&T's network service has been

-- the agreement will expire some time next year. We therefore expect

Apple to start selling a second, CDMA-based iPhone -- which will work

on Verizon Wireless -- as soon as next summer.

The phone might also be able to handle Verizon's 4G network
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, which will still be nascent next year.

And it will likely be able to accept a GSM SIM card for overseas

roaming, the way CDMA-based rivals like the RIM BlackBerry Storm and

Tour can.

Dumping the AT&T exclusive would pay off immediately for Apple financially.

AT&T probably sells around 8 million iPhones annually in the

U.S. We think a similarly priced Verizon iPhone could easily sell an

additional 2-4 million phones in its first year.

At an average wholesale price of $500, that could be $1 billion to

$2 billion in extra sales for Apple, which would justify the investment

required to build a CDMA phone (Verizon's network uses a different

technology than AT&T's). If Apple sold phones at Sprint and

T-Mobile, too, the incremental sales would be even higher.

The downside: Apple's unit margins will shrink, as AT&T and

Verizon will pay lower subsidies for the non-exclusive relationship.

But Apple will likely make this up in volume. And, most importantly,

the smartphone game is a platform war: Apple will be smart to take

lower margins now to secure its spot as the top smartphone platform.

Why drop the AT&T exclusive now? Because things have changed in the past two years.

Previously, it made sense for Apple to stick to one technology, GSM, because it was new to the phone business,

and should focus on the most popular technology. But now that Apple's

phone business is more mature, there's no reason not to offer phones

for both flavors of wireless network, as RIM, Nokia, and other phone

vendors do. Especially now that Apple has seen the outcry for an alternative to AT&T's network.

The cost for Apple to develop a CDMA iPhone would be trivial, says Amol Sarva, CEO of Peek, a wireless gadget startup
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,

and former executive at Virgin Mobile USA. If a hybrid phone is already

in Apple's road map, the incremental cost would essentially be zero. If

not, it might cost $5 million to spin out a different version, Sarva

says.

 
if that happens i might replace my blackberry with an iphone
the only thing holding me back from getting an iphone was having verizon
 
fuck I can't embed it, here is the copy paste

Waiting for an iPhone on Verizon? It probably won't be much longer.

We think Apple will dump its AT&T exclusive next year and start selling phones on more U.S. carriers -- especially Verizon Wireless, the nation's largest -- by next year.

Unless AT&T has been able to renew its exclusive agreement with Apple -- which we doubt, given how poor AT&T's network service has been

-- the agreement will expire some time next year. We therefore expect

Apple to start selling a second, CDMA-based iPhone -- which will work

on Verizon Wireless -- as soon as next summer.

The phone might also be able to handle Verizon's 4G network



, which will still be nascent next year.

And it will likely be able to accept a GSM SIM card for overseas

roaming, the way CDMA-based rivals like the RIM BlackBerry Storm and

Tour can.

Dumping the AT&T exclusive would pay off immediately for Apple financially.

AT&T probably sells around 8 million iPhones annually in the

U.S. We think a similarly priced Verizon iPhone could easily sell an

additional 2-4 million phones in its first year.

At an average wholesale price of $500, that could be $1 billion to

$2 billion in extra sales for Apple, which would justify the investment

required to build a CDMA phone (Verizon's network uses a different

technology than AT&T's). If Apple sold phones at Sprint and

T-Mobile, too, the incremental sales would be even higher.

The downside: Apple's unit margins will shrink, as AT&T and

Verizon will pay lower subsidies for the non-exclusive relationship.

But Apple will likely make this up in volume. And, most importantly,

the smartphone game is a platform war: Apple will be smart to take

lower margins now to secure its spot as the top smartphone platform.

Why drop the AT&T exclusive now? Because things have changed in the past two years.

Previously, it made sense for Apple to stick to one technology, GSM, because it was new to the phone business,

and should focus on the most popular technology. But now that Apple's

phone business is more mature, there's no reason not to offer phones

for both flavors of wireless network, as RIM, Nokia, and other phone

vendors do. Especially now that Apple has seen the outcry for an alternative to AT&T's network.

The cost for Apple to develop a CDMA iPhone would be trivial, says Amol Sarva, CEO of Peek, a wireless gadget startup



,

and former executive at Virgin Mobile USA. If a hybrid phone is already

in Apple's road map, the incremental cost would essentially be zero. If

not, it might cost $5 million to spin out a different version, Sarva

says.

 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...601774892.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEADNewsCollection

By YUKARI IWATANI KANE, TING-I TSAI And NIRAJ SHETH

Apple Inc. plans to begin producing this year a new iPhone that could allow U.S. phone carriers other than AT&T Inc. to sell the iconic gadget, said people briefed by the company.

The

new iPhone would work on a type of wireless network called CDMA, these

people said. CDMA is used by Verizon Wireless, AT&T's main

competitor, as well as Sprint Nextel Corp. and a handful of cellular

operators in countries including South Korea and Japan. The vast

majority of carriers world-wide, including AT&T, use another

technology called GSM.



Apple

is developing a new iPhone to debut this summer and also appears to be

working on another model for U.S. mobile phone operator Verizon

Wireless. WSJ's Julia Angwin and Simon Constable discuss.

With

Apple developing a phone with CDMA capability, its exclusive U.S.

arrangement with AT&T dating to 2007 appears set to end.

Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group

PLC, declined to comment. An AT&T spokesman said: "There has been

lots of incorrect speculation on CDMA iPhones for a long time. We

haven't seen one yet and only Apple knows when that might occur." Apple

declined to comment.

Separately, Apple plans to release a new version of its current

iPhone this summer, continuing its practice of annual upgrades at about

the same time of year, said people briefed on the matter. The model is

likely to be thinner and have a faster processor, two people familiar

with the device said.

For AT&T, the Apple relationship has been crucial, helping to

make the carrier the U.S. leader in lucrative smart-phone market share.

According to comScore Inc., AT&T has over 43% of all U.S.

smart-phone customers, compared with 23% for Verizon. These customers

are especially attractive because they generally pay higher monthly

rates for data plans.

For several quarters, AT&T's growth has come almost

single-handedly from the iPhone. In the fourth quarter of 2009, the

carrier said it activated 3.1 million new iPhones. In comparison, it

counted only a net total of 2.7 million new subscribers as some

customers moved from other phones to iPhones.

"You're not going to lose the iPhone [exclusivity] and make up

growth somewhere else without bearing the cost," said Sanford C.

Bernstein & Co. research analyst Craig Moffett.

The people briefed on the matter said the upgraded GSM iPhone is being made by Taiwanese contract manufacturer Hon Hai Precision Industry

Co., which produced Apple's previous iPhones. The CDMA iPhone model is

being made by Pegatron Technology Corp., the contract manufacturing

subsidiary of Taiwan's ASUSTeK Computer Inc., said these people.

One person familiar with the situation said Pegatron is scheduled to

start mass producing CDMA iPhones in September. Other people said,

however, that the schedule could change and the phone may not be

available to consumers immediately after production begins.

Representatives of Pegatron and Hon Hai declined to comment.

More


Verizon

has publicly stated its interest in the iPhone, but people familiar

with the situation said Apple originally decided against developing a

phone for Verizon to keep its development process simple, since the

technologies are incompatible.

Verizon also is upgrading its network to a higher-speed technology,

so Apple has said it believed CDMA was a short-term technology. Apple

later changed its mind as it realized Verizon's upgrade would take

longer than expected, said people familiar with the situation.

Making the iPhone available through Verizon, which has over 91

million customers, as well as potentially other CDMA carriers could

open up a significant new market. In 2009, iPhone sales globally rose

83% to 25.1 million, far outpacing the 20% to 25% growth in smart

phones sales overall, according to Bernstein. But since Apple already

dominates smart-phone sales through existing partners, "sooner rather

than later, Apple is going to have to look to find incremental

distribution," said Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi. He estimates

Verizon could help Apple nearly double the number of iPhone users in

the U.S.

AT&T's relationship with Apple, a lucrative deal arranged by Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs, shows how such a partnership with other carriers could present challenges.

Analysts estimate AT&T pays Apple more than $600 per phone, but

sells most of them for $199 or less. Heavy iPhone users have also put

an enormous load on AT&T's wireless network, pushing the carrier to

a breaking point in some markets such as New York and San Francisco.

Qualcomm Inc., which holds patent rights to CDMA, is the dominant designer of CDMA chips.

Write to Yukari Iwatani Kane at yukari.iwatani@wsj.com and Niraj Sheth at niraj.sheth@wsj.com

 
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