I Completely Agree. DARE and ATI Need to Go

Arabian.

Arabian.

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How can things like DARE and Above the Influence still be allowed?

First off let me make this clear, I do not in any way condone drug use among youth, I only fight for the truth.

In fifth grade I had to go through a program called DARE, Drug Abuse Resistance Education. When we convered marijuana in the DARE program it was all about how to say no, it didn't have any real facts at all.

But as bad as DARE may be the Above The Influence compainy is so much worse. I went on their website today to see what lies they plaster there. The following things on their site have been proven completely false, yet they STILL allow these lies to be spread.

"Marijuana causes cancer" - That was proven to be false many years ago

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=larg...

"health problems associated with using marijuana can keep students from attending school due to illness" - I don't even want to know what moron made that poor statement, considering there are no illnesses linked to marijuana.

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“one marijuana joint can deliver four times as much cancer-causing tar as a cigarette” -Several studies on marijuana prove otherwise

“Marijuana leads to depression” – It’s nice how they can say that, yet it has yet to PROVEN that marijuana can lead to depression, so for the time being that is solely theory

Describing “stoners” as “sedentary, uninspired, and remarkably unmotivated” - Lynn Zimmer and John P. Morgan said it best “There is nothing about marijuana specifically that causes people to lose their drive and ambition. In laboratory studies, subjects given high doses of marijuana for several days or even several weeks exhibit no decrease in work motivation or productivity.”

Also if you haven’t checked out Above the Influence’s sources you might want to do so because “facts” from ’88 just don’t cut it. And to top it all off, some of the links simply lead to NOWHERE. Now why are these things allowed to go on? I’m not trying to start a big huge debate; I just want the TRUTH told.

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"We have learned through our intensive research that both male and female stoners tend to lack the motivation to maintane proper hygene" - This information of course has no source

http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/stoners...

Its this kind of thing that is the reason why I cannot stand Above the Influence. A great deal of the supposed information in this "documentary" have no sources at all and are completely biased towards marijuana while degrading those who smoke it. This kind of degration is simply unjust and cruel. If this segment was on any one BUT stoners it would without a doupt be stopped due to hate crime.
 


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my 5th grade class was the last one in my area to have dare. that was like 10 years ago. i think dare is pretty much phased out
 
i wonder why that happend, intresting ignore that theres 10 of them theres only three parts
 
For every study that is pro-weed there is one showing opposite results. The ones that are pro-weed are way more popular though, since they have different results than the normal trend. THC is harmful for the brain in anything other than a small amount, every study has confirmed this. Maybe not as harmful as nicotine or alcohol, but still harmful nevertheless.

There are two extremes in this issue: the pro-drug and the anti-drug. ATI/DARE (which are really meant for kids/younger teens) are on the anti-drug side obviously. The stoner society and the people that say that weed is the miracle plant or the sacred herb is the other extreme. Personally I find both to be completely useless in convincing people and a middle ground has to be established for any sort of change to happen, no matter if it is for economic gain or for personal freedoms.
 
DARE officers were the ones getting their asses kicked at school... just smoke a bowl and be glad you're not a sorry ass lying mother fuck like these degenerate pieces of scum.
 
it's the same shit as PETA, those groups will never die because there are so many people who won't let them. just ignore them, don't let it get to ya.
 
Oh, and I used to smoke constantly but I'm phasing it out of my life to the point where I want to smoke maybe once a month and maybe once every other month in the school year.
 
Show me a study from a non-profit research group that is anti-weed. Has to be non profit, though. The only anti-weed studies I've seen have been government mandated.
 
I'll find one that says that THC is harmful to the brain, I have a couple studies somewhere that I've seen that weren't government-related. Perhaps, though, they were complete bogus.

Can you give me a NON-BIASED source that claims that THC is helpful to the brain? Other than the conspiracy theory that the government is using flouride to numb our minds and that weed picks back up the pace of melatonin, I haven't seen a single study that proves that helpfulness for the everyday woman or man. I can understand for certain medical situations, but excessive recreational use doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I know I was using it for self-medication at the time before I realized how much worse my ADD had gotten when I wasn't high and how I was dependent on it for sleep.

By the way...there were plenty of NGOs back in the day that used to say that cigarettes were fine for the brain. You know why? The members were addicted.

Not going to say that weed is addicting physically, but I know for me it was definitely addictive mentally and it had a detrimental physical effect, and they loved it!

 
some say it's a hobby of mine. others just say "stfu" and don't bother since they know me :)

but yeah I'm actually sort of mad I started smoking. I have an addictive personality already and anything that's good (skiing for example) really affects who I am when I'm in a period of time when I do it a lot. I get really good grades during ski season and I'm way more happy and sociable. Withdrawal during the spring...not so much fun for me nor those around me haha, probably the same for a lot of NS.

I don't want to stop anything that feels good for me, the only difference between eating a delicious slice of pizza and a THC-frosted bowl of weed is that pizza fills me up while the pizza (both metaphorically and literally) makes me feel more empty, wanting more rather than being elevated to a higher state of mind overall.

I've mellowed out a ton since I stopped my smoking binges (every day for weeks at a time, more than once a day) but I think my brain processes have slowed a lot because of it. It's been a year and a half since I was doing that, and I feel that I have anxiety problems that have arisen from weed and my ADD kicked into high gear after I stopped smoking. Might have been coincidence though...

I'm not completely against it for some people. I think that for some people, like ADD meds, it actually can do some good. the problem is, way more people use it the wrong way than for enhancement of life and overall well-being. I feel that I appreciate it more now that I stopped for a few months and then got back into it but to a much more limited extent. anyways I'm done with this thread for tonight, I'll try to find my studies tomorrow.
 
I don't want to stop anything that feels good for me, the only difference between eating a delicious slice of pizza and a THC-frosted bowl of weed is that pizza fills me up while the weed(both metaphorically and literally) makes me feel more empty, wanting more rather than being elevated to a higher state of mind overall.

bad typo in there my bad for the double post
 
The thing is, is that these courses and propaganda are made for kids, and try to get kids to veer away from drugs at an early age, and the best way to do that is to feed these 5th graders a bunch of bullshit that they will later find out is not actually true, say 3, 4 years after. DARE is fine, and I think that it's a good way to keep a lot of kids out of drugs and out of trouble and living a good childhood.
 
I remember sitting though those lessons in 6th grade thinking "This is all biased speculation with no evidence."

And no I did not smoke in 6th grade.
 
haha they shoukd send everyone who is arrested for marijuana and ae like super slow and lazy to that one guys prison in phoenix and they can all just bum around being stoners pissing that guy off and then they should fire him once he snaps at all the pot heads
 
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