I can't decide who to feel bad for...

i'm usually not a "fuck the police" kind of guy, but fuck those cops. they got what they deserve. seriously? four cops holding a guy down and giving him jabs with the pr-24 or whatever the fuck he was carrying? that shit ain't right.
 
I feel bad for the first guy, the police deserved it. never would have happened if they hadnt been using excessive force on him.
 
cops are mega corupt. these days, with everybody filming everything, and videos going viral, you can see, it happens all the time, everywhere. abuse of authority. i spit on that
 
Several of my professors over the years are former cops. One of them became an NYPD officer in the early 50s. He claims to have killed more people as a cop than he ever did as pilot in WWII, and a marine in korea...combined. And also says that cops these days are about 1/100th as corrupt as they used to be, specifically because of people filming and paying attention.

What these guys did is not over the top or corrupt. Someone trespassed on the field, and he was taken down. You know how to avoid that situation? Don't be a fool and run on the field.

don't spout stupidity based on a few youtube videos. Read the news from now, and the past and you'll find that things have gotten better or stayed roughly the same.

And by the way, if you want to hunt down real corruption, look no further than politicians.
 
you call it trespassing, i call it part of the game. you dont hit anyone who is not a physical threat to you. ever. them cops battered him. now if you want to. if you trespass, you get a fine. not your fucking ass beaten. also, if your streaking nude, you should get slapped with another fine. not with a cops batton for nothing. to compare that incident to cop corruption is stupid too. everyone knows it happened tons back in the day. thats no excuse for it to happen "less" now. should not happen at all
 
how is it part of the game? Is it in the rules of soccer that a fan must trespass onto the field, and stop the game?

oh and trespassing isn't up for debate. You're in a stadium, in an area you aren't authorized to be in. That's trespassing whether or not you think it is.

It was a little over the top, but when someone goes out there you don't know what their intention is. Most just go out there for the fun/publicity of it, but as far as anyone knows, maybe he's got a weapon and is out to cause harm. That's why you take him down and get him out as fast as possible.

I didn't compare it, I was responding to your post comparing it.

And not everyone does, and I'd venture a guess that you had no idea, and probably still don't. It shouldn't happen, you're right. But we're making progress. It's not going to happen that everyone wakes up one morning, and all the corruption in the world is gone.
 
I feel bad for the cops. they were just doing their job, when suddenly 300 people come down and try to fuck them up.
 
i have no sympathy for the guy who interrupts a soccer game and takes a few jabs to the ribs. who gives a shit. it's not like they were killing him. the cops don't deserve to be beaten without mercy simply because they inflicted a slight amount of pain to a guy who made the choice to be an idiot and run onto the field.

but i also have no sympathy for the cops who likewise make the choice to get their cheap shots in feeling like they're untouchable. they may think twice about that one in the future.

actions have consequences, and making the choice to gang up on someone never really ends well. nobody deserves to be beaten like that, guilty or not, but i still can't find myself feeling bad for either party when it's something that was completely avoidable based on their own personal choices.
 
I think there were alot of cowardly acts there but the one hero was the guy who just came in alone with a kick to the cops head
 
Pretty easy decision for me. Humanity.

Depressing how everyone acts in this video.
 
your really fighting your opinion eh. in my opinion, the cops were surely wrong in what they did. thats my opinion. i think that his actions were pretty visible, and not to harm anyone. guy clearly had some shit scribbled on a poster that he wanted everyone to see. and id venture a guess, that a lot of people know the history about police abuse of authority. these days it spans far beyond beatin someone down still. it should be also known that the police these days love to abuse steroids. and rage out when they cant control them. where i live there was a fellow who owns Hercs Nutrition stores and got busted for selling steroids. and his biggest customers have always been cops in the first place.
 
come back when you put your life in harms way on a regular basis and have seen "seemingly unviolent" people try to kill you and then talk about intentions and what's appropriate judgement.

 
"It happened once in my town, so it must be the norm everywhere else in the country with every single other police officer."

honestly, I can respect your opinion and your argument for it, but your points are completely irrelevant. I've personally known dozens of cops in my life, I routinely work with dozens more, and not a single one abuses (or even uses to my knowledge) steroids.

so how does that point matter in the grand scheme? It's a shame it happened near you. Doesn't mean it happens anywhere else.
 
they had him pinned long before they started hitting him. is that not completely visible? the guy never hit any one of the cops, surely that was obvious too. your point that you just said isnt much relatable bc taking out past experience on innocent ppl isnt right in the fist place. fack man, especially in front of that many fans and cameras too
 
"ive personally known dozens of cops in my life, i routinely work with dozens more" ...thus your opinion is biased :P

but really tho, theyd be stupid to fess up to using wouldnt they?
 
"I've known dozens of cops so what they say must be the norm everywhere." Think before you criticize others. You made the same logical fallacy he did.
 
i laugh at people who call the cops thugs or say they are taking their privileges too far. because those people are usually the first to call 911 when real sit goes down.
 
no but when you make the choice to be a fucking idiot and interrupt a game, a couple of jabs to the ribs is well deserved. they weren't killing him, they simply inflicted a little pain to let him know "hey, that shits not ok, dont do it again". i would punch someone in the face if he grabbed a girlfriends ass. what, are you going to say that i deserve what i have coming to me because i reacted to someone else's stupidity with a minor amount of physical punishment?

get real you fucking hippie. you dont want to get your ass fucked up, don't do stupid shit. plain and simple.
 
Forget about their actions. Their job is corrupt. We, the taxpayers, must pay their salaries under threat of violence. No comment on made up 1/100th statistic as it's just made up. "My professor said it so it must be true." Humorous. Barack Obama doesn't haul me out of my car and search me for vegetation, police officers do. George Bush never once abducted someone and locked them in a jail for a nonviolent "crime", police officers do. If politicians didn't have the guns of the police and the military then their edicts would hold as much sway as whatever laws anyone else made up. If you want to hunt down real corruption, look no farther than the parents who raise their children so poorly that they want to become paid thugs of the state when they grow up.
 
Unless you base your opinion on any logic or principles it doesn't mean anything. It's pure reactionary fluff.
 
logic would dictate that you're over prepared rather than under prepared. you have to be as a police officer, right? you dont know what the fuck to expect.

logic would also dictate that if someone is a fuckhead, you punch him in the mouth. physical pain is a good deterrent, and it doesn't cause any lasting damage.

in a world without consequences, why would crime stop? if the absolute worst case scenario is "hey, cops catch me, treat me like a princess, and throw me in a holding cell where i have more privilege than i do out in the world", where's the deterrent? oh, but now you have the threat of someone smashing your face in. you might think twice about committing a criminal act, or in this case, selfishly interrupting a game and posing a potential threat to the players.

but you continue being a little softy cause if someone grabbed your sister's tits out on the streets, im sure you'd just calmly approach him and tell him "please sir would you not be disrespectful" like a civil individual, right?
 
dude i dunno if you have no idea what your talking, or whats wrong with your morals or what. cops have 0 authority to hurt anyone, i dont know the laws of the top of my head, but i am sure of that. they are not allowed to do, OR say, half of the shit they do. they have no more if someone grabbed my girlfriends tit, i would undoubtedly kick them in the teeth. thats nothing comparable to what them police did right there tho. half the fucking stadium thinks its funny when someone streaks the field anyways. i am prettttty sure the guy will get a big fine, be banned from the stadium, and maybe placed in holding for a few hours still. in my books, and ill say it boaldly and sternly, and i know you'll get offended, if a cop hits me for no reason, in my dream world i would smack the grin off his face and let him feel what he does to others on a daily basis. trying to belittle ppl and shit. and ya, i like police. for the most part i think theyre reasonable, and reasonably doing their jobs. im speaking of the ones that dont.

...and i am not a hippie lol pretty sure of it
 
I have a big fucking problem with this. The fact that we automatically assume that anybody who is participating in an illegal act is probably armed and/or out to hurt others is absolutely preposterous. I agree with what you said about him being taken down, because that's fine. But there's a difference between taking somebody down and removing them from the field and blatantly beating them for no reason. What the officers did was completely out of line for the situation they were in. They had no reason whatsoever to hold him down for that long, much less physically harm him like that. He should have been taken down and immediately removed from the stadium, then charged with whatever is appropriate for what he did.
 
aghhh my post got completely messed up, lots of mistakes in there. what the fuck is a fairychild tho? and you should get out of your bed man, you been posting enough, for far too long. im barely ever in here. but really tho. what i failed to make a point of mostly, is cops have no more right than anyone else. thats fucking that. if i hit someone, my fault, i should claim reep the consequences. if the cop does, fuck it, ok, thats fine to, he should be damn ready to reep dem consequences as well. fuck that. i would just hope that being in the position that hes in, the cop would have been better learned on whats right and whats wrong
 
I am biased, I'll admit it.

I was using my own experiences to counter your point. I obviously can't speak for every cop, but neither can you. I was just pointing out that it isn't the norm everywhere and making that assumption is incorrect. I never said that it doesn't happen.

As for being mad that someone can be assumed to be dangerous, well take your own risk. Their job isn't to take that risk and to remove the problem before it becomes a bigger problem. I agree with you...northeast? (I think. Sorry if its someone else) about them bringing it too far. They should've tackled him, and dragged him off. End of story.

You also have to realize that these people aren't anti-corruption liberty seekers. They wanted to go out there and gain publicity and attention. Just like the first guy.
 
That's not logic. Those are more opinions. Physical punishment is a horrible deterrent. Have you read any research at all about it? Just start with punishment in general and look into how well it works. It doesn't. Who said anything about a world without consequences? Straw man. After that you have some more uninformed opinions and then insult me, impressive intellect. Look, if you don't at the very least understand the difference between initiating the use of force and self-defense, you don't have much to say on this topic.
 
cops are people, not robots. you expect them to act more civil than you would in a given situation?

again, they weren't murdering the guy, they were inflicting minimal physical pain to send a message.

do you shed a tear every time you hear a story about a bar fight? you're well aware that military personnel are trained using these exact tactics, right? inflict pain, try to break them. but i bet you're another one of those "fuck the troops" people aren't you.

god forbid anyone in this world has a finger laid on them, cry injustice! plant flowers on their behalf!
 
i hope you have 911 disabled from your phone lines.

everyone's a critic in terms of how police pursue their responsibilities, and then harm comes your way and you're the first to cry for their help and demand justice.

but im the one with the "impressive intellect" right?
 
That's a flawed argument. 1) It has nothing to do with the arguments I've put forward. 2) The government has a monopoly on law enforcement. Their police force will put you in jail if you were to start your own. So no, it would not be hypocritical to call the police because I'm forced to pay for and only use their services. You haven't addressed any arguments I've put forward and you haven't put forward any arguments on how the government monopoly on law enforcement is valid in any way or how police officers are justified in initiating the use of force. Until that time, you don't have much of importance to say on this topic.
 
thats cool and all, but lawyers are lawyers, and doctors are doctors, and cops should have the adequate education and training, to be cops. the law says they cant do that shit, and thats that. i fully, 100% expect them to act civil. theyre them mother fuckers that are supposed to protect us. cops are trained to have you one arm behind the back im pretty sure, and tug on that bitch upwards to your head too, till it feels like your arms about to snap, or almost dislocating your shoulder? bc they do that too. and to your other post, everyone should be a critic to the shit that happens with regards to what the authorities arent supposed to do. fuck that, were paying for it. we vote for that shit. the best way to describe it id say, is for cops to not let their "feelings" get involved ever. im pretty sure they are taught that as well. theres no way your going to overturn my thoughts on what those cops did, to being right.
 
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