How do you guys feel

pocket-rocket

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Hey there,

i would just like to know how you guys feel like to be sponsored by liberty, positive and negative comments are welcome, I just want to get a good vibe.

J.

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i think its sick for sure...because with my situation im getting alot more support through you guys than i would riding for a larger company....it is however frustrating when you dont have product that your proud of to show off....i mean im almost always on a delamed pair of stealths, because i break them in a day....but i know stuff is getting dialed in...thats why im stoked to stay onboard

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I totaly agree with witt, this company is going to be totaly on it the second they get the kinks worked out of the skis.

Less of what you dont want, more of what you want. P-Crew.$
 
I agree with you guys, it is tough to ride and represent a company and a product that you personally cannot be 100% stoked and positive on.

I do want to let you know that we have changed the cores a bit to make them a little stronger, added a layer to help hold in bindings, and added rivits to the tips and tails to help with the delam problem.

Good feedback, keep it comming.

...he died doing what he loved. He will always be rememberd as a great snowboarder, but more importantly as a great friend.

In loving memory of Josh Malay.

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i really like the skis and how easy goin everyone seems to be. Everyones hella nice and everything. The only thing that i have a small problem with is that it seems that some of the kids (roots team) are treated alot better then some of the others. I dont understand that but i still love this company and hope to be with it for a while!

We're all chasing the dream
 
I think they guys at liberty are really good at looking at what you are contributing to the company (competitions, filming, publicity) and the distribute goods accordingly. Ask not what your ski sponsor can do for you, but what you can do for your ski sponsor. Or some shit like that.

Less of what you dont want, more of what you want. P-Crew.$
 
haha word.....i think that we shouldnt all get the same deal tho...i mean i know for a fact that alot of us are doing alot for the company...and others are just enjoying theyre pair of free skis back at their hill...which is fine...but for those who are promoting the company and as cody said filming competing and getting publicity, i think they for sure deserve more in return.....

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Overall I'm loving being on Liberty. Everyone I've dealt with corresponding to the company has been great. Whenever I have a problem I'm always get an answer quickly. As far as the product goes, the skis are great for the most part but every pair I've had have eventually delamed somewhere. I've found that getting the riveted works really well in preventing this from happening. It sounds like everything Spinks is saying about the new skis will solve all of these problems and I look forward to seeing the company keep growing as it has this year.

 
this may seem like kind of a funny comment but i really feel that being on liberty makes me want to ski better...motivates me to really push it because when i get recognition i'm not just promoting myself, i'm promoting a great new company on its way somewhere... make sense?

oh and i think i'm in a photo for progression ski camps in freeskier on the skis! wahoo.

 
Great feedbacks, as for getting more or less than someone else, i think that this is normal, but it might not be the right people getting more or getting less.thats why we will look at all your videos, and establish a better way to work with you guys. no one on this team is like another one, and you guys should get something accordingly to what you do.

J.

Liberty Skis

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Im super stoked to be on liberty I like the skis(Mine havent been delaminated yet!) but I dont really like that crap of a video deadline in march.. I dunno.. whatever

I like them short, I like them fat.
I dont care I lay them on their back! ---------Wiener freestylin in the chairlif

 
dude^ why not....you should be able to get some footy by then...and i dont think its unreasonable to ask for the riders to prove themselves again...i def think that all of us should have to prove to em again this year that we deserve it....so that they can have the best team possible

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i dont like the march thing either but i understand why. It just sucks because since mt hood has been so crappy they closed and all i have is rails and rails and rails... i have like 2 jumps but i guess i can use some jumps from last year but yea

We're all chasing the dream
 
we just want to stay up to date with each of you as riders to keep track of who is making the effort, and who is just slacking off.

We want those of you that are working hard for yourselves and the company to be the best you can be. In order to do so, we need to know who is making the effort, and who is'nt at all. Your involvement here in the private forum also reflects your motivation.

we're not looking for you to make a Poorboyz video for us by march, just somthing to show us what you are working on, how your doing, and how much you have improved this year.

Thanks again for all your support!

...he died doing what he loved. He will always be rememberd as a great snowboarder, but more importantly as a great friend.

In loving memory of Josh Malay.

RED TEAM!
 
One thing I can think of, and I dont know if liberty can afford it at this time but I know ninthward is doing it for its riders. They get bindings from look/lange for there riders. I know we get free ski's and thats super sweet, but its still tough to scrape up $200 for some bindings to put on the skis. Just a thought.

Less of what you dont want, more of what you want. P-Crew.$
 
Ninthward have a lot less rider...we have about 19 roots team members, plus pro team. Its a lot of riders, may be if we had less riders, with the same budget for sponsorships, we could afford that.

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I wish Liberty could buy us all bindings, that would be sick. If you need help, let me know and I can get you a pro-deal to get bindings for cheap rather than paying full retail.

...he died doing what he loved. He will always be rememberd as a great snowboarder, but more importantly as a great friend.

In loving memory of Josh Malay.

RED TEAM!
 
Yah even if you were able to get a good deal on bindings for the team that would make a big difference, and I know would help a lot of us out.

Less of what you dont want, more of what you want. P-Crew.$
 
ya i like the skis alot and all the guys alot, but one thing i think make it feel like we are not really wanted it the whole 'at the end of the season we could kick you all off the team if your not alot better and have lots of footage to show your progress'. But its cool

-Nick Martini

Stept Productions

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They just want good skiers, can you blame them? If you were on any team and didnt make any progress over the year it would be the exact same. And if you had a good video last year it should be easy to progress on that.

Less of what you dont want, more of what you want. P-Crew.$
 
dude its not a threat....they just want to make sure they have the best riders possible each year...and if we all suck compared to the kids that are trying to get hooked up for next season...i think for sure the company has the right to say gooodbye to some of us....its not as if we were guarenteed tenure with the company when we got a flow contract ya know

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I think its just normal to ask for videos. We are conscient that some people on the team should simply not be there, and we need to find out what we want. thats all, and thats normal.

By the way, some people apparently made some nice resume that were not the most honnest thing, some comps results were added and stuff. all the results will be verify, if you can keep some results sheets from the comps and join that to your stuff, it would make it easier for us.

thanks

J.

Liberty Skis

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it is normal to ask for videos. but not this early. i dont even own a camera, and have very little footaghe wich is all rails. and not a singler jump on film, this will make me look bad, when i have really gotten better, and learned alot of new stuff.

as far as how things have gone, its all good, good support, and i think good product for the first year. i think there is alot of kinks that need to b worked out with on the skis, like flex, durability, ect. and im sure u guys r working hard on that.

It also seems like Liberty is a little behind. Like we didnt have a booth at sia and all the other companies did. We havent seen the new graphics, and all the other companies have released theres and hooked kids on thier product. I know Liberty is still getting started, but it seems like we need to get up to date and keep up with the competition.

 
As far as being behind, only armada and 4frnt had booth at SIa. Ninthward had a crappy 10x10 booth that they did set up on the morning of the show. We werent ready to make a real booth, and the suite we had was way more professional than a booth thrown like that, with no preparation.

We are already working on next year booth. 4frnt didnt have a booth on their first year you know..its not to be behind, but to grow at your own rythm.

As far as new skis go, we have the same mentality as armada, we dont want the skis all over the internet, we want them to be shown in rider`s feet. not picture of skis on a wall.

For what concerns giving next year skis to team member, well, the roots team will know some change, in the way its taken care of and stuff. so we will wait a bit.

For the video, its early because we will have a meeting in march, to make it up. we need to make next year team. you had 2 months already, solid, and one more months. As i said earlier, you can easily go out with a home video, for one day, film, and get the stuff on a tape.

J.

Liberty Skis

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The thing about the video is exactly what collin said I dont own a camera either.. I have a couple of rials taht I finally got from people who were filming me without I noticed and when I did I ask them for email adress and got like 5 crappy shot..

I entered a cinema/theatre class at the college becasue on week end during the semester I will be allowed to borrow a camera for the week end to work on a 'school' project but I can buy a little cassete and film hopefully some good shit..

I know its not a threat but thats how u called it when they asked that to us witt..

anywyas Im havin a great time on the skis w/e

peace

I like them short, I like them fat.
I dont care I lay them on their back! ---------Wiener freestylin in the chairlif

 
peep this. We know you are not all great camera people, and we know you are not all loaded with money and connections to get video. However, the oppertunities for you to get some stuff documented is out there.

You need to see this as a job a little bit. It is your responsibility to get us somthing, otherwise we have no way of knowing how you are doing.

I get probably 10-20 emails a week asking about sponsorship and I tell everybody the same thing. Send us an HONEST resume that tells us about yourself, your style, your goals in life and in skiing, and include a video. Im sure that a lot of the applicants are good enough on the hill, but we will never know that unless we ski with you, or see a video!

Some of you made it out to US Open and had a chance to ski with some of the pro team guys which was great. We know Witt has been killing it and working hard because we got to ski with him and hang out. Further, he is working with a film company to get exposure for himself and the company. This the the kind of dedication we need, and the caliber of riders we want.

We dont want to give out free skis to kids who are just going to ski around their local hill and say 'yea, im sponsored, Liberty is sick'. This is a tough industry, you need to work hard. Sponsored riders are those who are working hard to travel, get media coverage, represent the company, and build up their own connections!

I dont mean to sound like an asshole, but kids who are just riding at their local hills, no matter how good they are, if they are not getting around and getting exposure for themselves and the company, the costs of sponsoring that person outweigh the benefits of sponsoring them. This is business! That's why you dont see companies like Armada with a roots team!

We dont only look at how good you are at skiing. We want to give the people that are working hard to come up in the industry the support they need to keep working hard, and keep aiming for the day they knock Tanner off the podium! That's why Salomon and Oakley sponsored Dumont for the last few seasons, they were supporting him so he could get to the top.

I hope I am not comming off as too much of an ass. We are super stoked on the team we have this year, that's why you were picked. This is a dog-eat-dog business, and the roots team is going to change every year! Some kids are going to get dropped, some are going to advance to the pro team, and some kids are going to stay where they are.

There is still time before our march meeting to get some shit done. You could get a friend with a camera, pay him $20 to film you for three days and you can easily get a minute or two worth of footage to send to us. Like I said, we are not looking for a Poorboyz video from you, just somthing so we can see how you are doing!

Make the best out of this next month!

...he died doing what he loved. He will always be rememberd as a great snowboarder, but more importantly as a great friend.

In loving memory of Josh Malay.

RED TEAM!
 
I completely understand what your trying to say, the fact that I guess witt got to ride with you puts him ahead of all of us as youll only get to see a short video of us skiing and never really know who we are or what were like. The only problem I have with the March 1st video deadline is that some of the best riding goes down in the spring and we wont get to show any of that. But otherwise its enough time to scrape up a little footage.

 
to all you guys that dont have cameras......find out where the av room in your school is and go see if you can sign one out....at least at my school which is pretty ghetto compared to most, we have like 6 nice mini dv cameras that we can take out and take home whenever we want. If you can get your hands on one of those just take one out each weekend and have one of your friends shoot you

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The march 1st deadline was established because we have to meet at some point to decide of next year team. In a perfect world, 1 person would take care of both team. it is not the case. for some reasons, i only take care of canada. the team is only 1 part of the company, and we have to fit the time to check the videos somewhere in our schedule. the only time we have is sometime in march.

as for the video itself. I mentionned MANY times, that 1 or 2 days of riding could easily be enough. Film it all. Im sorry, but I dont believe it when you say that the best of skiing is in spring. YES, its more fun, but if you arent constant enough to stomp your sick tricks in the winter, well, there is a problem, X-games and and us open are in january dude...

We also realized that the team is not necessarly at the level we want it to be, and we want to make next year team as soon as possible.

J.

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ok so lets say, we send in the video in and you say that u dont want us next year? does that mean we are still on the team till october then we are off, or we are off right away? just wondering

We're all chasing the dream
 
i would say to whoever isnt on the new team to keep skiing on your skis and be proud of the company that helped support you the previous season...or if something else comes up take it....you all raved about how sick the skis were so i would assume alot of you would want to stay on em

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Our march meeting is to decide who will be offered a new contract for next season. You should all continue to ride and represent for the duration of your contracts.

We are not saying that after our march meeting we are over. We just want somthing by then. If you get great stuff in the spring and summer, send it in when it is done and ready and it will definitly be considered. We just want somthing to watch and discuss in our meeting.

Be aware, that if you send us somthing your chances of getting another contract are much higher. You can compliment your March video with summer and spring footage that will be considered as well.

You can make it happen, we have faith in all of you!

BTW, your involvement on this forum also is taken into account when we are considering you for next season! So keep it up with the great discussions!

...he died doing what he loved. He will always be rememberd as a great snowboarder, but more importantly as a great friend.

In loving memory of Josh Malay.

RED TEAM!
 
Why are you guys sooo nervous? Some of you give the impression that you have the feeling that you dont have what it takes....

Seriously, dont stress, we want to see you, just be yourself. thats all.

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no but explained like that its better but try to be at our place and the way I was understanding it first was taht u guys took too many people on the team and u regret it and u'll cut the team in march..

Yes it is stressful a bit but I really like the way spinks put it..

I like them short, I like them fat.
I dont care I lay them on their back! ---------Wiener freestylin in the chairlif

 
We have a really large team, and to keep everyone on, you will all have to impress us. As it is right now, i would cut some numbers down.

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Riding for liberty has been awesome. I've skied at lots of places all over bc and alberta, though most of those were before i got my skis. There is a lack of snow in most of BC but I've been getting out as much as possible. I know I'm not as good as lots of other girls but I am progressing really fast. I've talked to a ton of people about the skis, everyone is really stoked on them and many are interested in getting a pair for next season. I will have a video to send you by the end of the month, nothing fancy but I got a bit of filming done on sunday at Louise and will do some more hopefully soon. Anyways, yeah being on the team has been such a good opportunity. I've been doing my best to promote liberty by talking to as many people as possible and going to lots of different resorts. I hope all this combined will be enough to stay on the team for next season.

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watch out I have BADD
 
^some talk like this is great, but not enough to be on a AM team. This will have to be completed with some great on snow skills. Such talk could be valid for a pro deal or something like that for example....but not to be on a team. To be on a team you have to compete, get some photoshoot, try to get them published, and try to get some movies appearance.

J.

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YIKES! this seems to be a big deal to everyone...all of us have to do this you guys...and its the same with big pros too...if they dont perform they get dropped....and as someone pointed out..mooost of the big comps are before march 1st.....so essentially we should all be able to stick our shit on film at some point before than anywho....just stop stressin about it

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personally im not stressin, but witt kids dont have hookups with filming companies and shit like you do, we dont get to go to the us open to show the pro riders what we can do, ur in a different situation so dont talk like you know what kids who dont have those opportunities have to do to get this done

 
I think part of being sponsored is riding sick all year round and not having a 'hot' part of your year. And if your not filming, and your not competing, and your not traveling around to different hills then, well then your not really doing anything for your sponsor. Like I said earlier ask not what your ski sponsor can do for you but what you can do for your ski sponsor. And be confident with your riding, in your own mind you should be sick! and you should show it (with respect in mind). LIBERTY IS DOPE...

Less of what you dont want, more of what you want. P-Crew.$
 
dude..^ you make it sound like i have friends that get me all my travelling and filming stuff....they arent 'hoook ups' i think that being able to maturely converse with a sponsor and tell them what you think and ask them serious questions is just a big a part as your steeze on the hill....i sought out all of my film people and i got my other sponsors to pay for my trip because i talk with them about what im doing and how i can take advantage of those oppurtunities...its not like i have all this stuff given to me you know.......however...i realize it was really cool for me to ski and compete against the team....but....everyone has the same chance at this man...dont single me out...its weird

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DRAMA is for girls, not f-in skiers on a team trying to do something to make a company better.

We're all chasing the dream
 
its definitly sick, we probably have some of the nicest if not the nicest and coolest guys for any ski company running this place

*NORTHEAST CULT*

^ITS ALIVE AGAIN!!!

guy talking:'now iannick b, i realize you are wearing an orange coat, let me ask you, are you the orange master'

iannick:'......i dont think so'

quagmire:'We got to do something.'

peter:'Dont worry i got an idea, an idea so smart my head would explode if i even began to know what I am talking about.

dude i talked to them about it and they said 'our budget doesnt alow it' fuck that.....they just think im ugly-giray
 
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