How do i nose/tail manual and butter?

bananaman123431

bananaman123431

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I can kind of tail manual but i can’t really do anything else and i don’t think i’m manualing the right way. is there a certai way to do it? thanks
 
Mostly practice. Having soft skis help a lot. Commit with your upper body, don't just put your weight over your tip/ tails. Think about sliding the skis

under . Like if you are nose buttering push your skies under you body if that makes sense
 
When you're stopped, try popping up onto your noses and leaning on your poles. Once you get a feel for this and can successfully hold that position for a bit, try leaning more forward/back, side to side, swing around a little bit. You'll probably fall a lot but eventually you'll get pretty good at controlling your balance and stuff so you can stay up.

Next, start skiing along really slow. Preferably toward a rolling hill feature and as the hill start to slope down more, try again to pop up onto your noses as much as possible, then commit into a summersault. It's gonna look and feel silly but you're building up your feel for skiing on other parts of your skis than what's normal.

If you can successfully do this without digging your tips in, you're on a good track. Finally, instead of going over the handlebars and crashing, try swinging around to do like a 180. Once this feels comfortable, start trying to go to 360 or maybe try getting an actual pop.

After plenty of this silly fun, you should start adding more speed. Start trying them on different features, maybe like a small park jump or do it up around a hip. You'll probably fail many times before you succeed but that's a lot of tricks. I started getting really confident with butters when i started trying nb cork 5 or 7 and it actually helped my cork commitment too.

For tail butters I'd assume its a similar process but they're awful for your knees so I kinda avoid doing them. Either way, it's all about strongly engaging ALL of your muscles thru your entire body. And plenty of practice. Softer and/or more rockered skis help a lot as well.
 
14360477:ReturnToMonkey said:
When you're stopped, try popping up onto your noses and leaning on your poles. Once you get a feel for this and can successfully hold that position for a bit, try leaning more forward/back, side to side, swing around a little bit. You'll probably fall a lot but eventually you'll get pretty good at controlling your balance and stuff so you can stay up.

Next, start skiing along really slow. Preferably toward a rolling hill feature and as the hill start to slope down more, try again to pop up onto your noses as much as possible, then commit into a summersault. It's gonna look and feel silly but you're building up your feel for skiing on other parts of your skis than what's normal.

If you can successfully do this without digging your tips in, you're on a good track. Finally, instead of going over the handlebars and crashing, try swinging around to do like a 180. Once this feels comfortable, start trying to go to 360 or maybe try getting an actual pop.

After plenty of this silly fun, you should start adding more speed. Start trying them on different features, maybe like a small park jump or do it up around a hip. You'll probably fail many times before you succeed but that's a lot of tricks. I started getting really confident with butters when i started trying nb cork 5 or 7 and it actually helped my cork commitment too.

For tail butters I'd assume its a similar process but they're awful for your knees so I kinda avoid doing them. Either way, it's all about strongly engaging ALL of your muscles thru your entire body. And plenty of practice. Softer and/or more rockered skis help a lot as well.
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i have vishnu wets but i’m really light (130 lbs) so that’s definitely not helping but thanks in going to try this stuff.
 
14360477:ReturnToMonkey said:
Next, start skiing along really slow. Preferably toward a rolling hill feature and as the hill start to slope down more, try again to pop up onto your noses as much as possible, then commit into a summersault. It's gonna look and feel silly but you're building up your feel for skiing on other parts of your skis than what's normal.
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Did u just tell OP to start off with nose budder front flips? I’m confused and intrigued lol
 
14360581:KilaTsunami said:
Did u just tell OP to start off with nose budder front flips? I’m confused and intrigued lol
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Nah it's more like balance as long as you can on your noses then let yourself roll over, dont panic. I think its easier to do that to get used to being on your noses than starting straight away with spins. But if you wanna start by spinning, by all means do it.

14360582:bananaman123431 said:
i was thinking i have vishnus won’t i just smash my face into the snow
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This is the importance of doing it standing still first because you start to learn how to engage your muscles to avoid falling over. Try to put as little weight on the poles as possible to really focus on your legs and core
 
An easy way to learn to nose butter is to ski switch on a gentle slop and rock your weight forward to bring your tails up.
 
Are your heels able to lift in your ski boots? Having them locked down will make buttering and skiing in general way easier. Flexing the ski from the knee down rather than having to throw your entire body over the ski will make them easier to do as well.
 
Melt butter and drink it.

but tbh just butter around and have fun with it. See everything as a feature, every knuckle, hip and even a snowball on flat can be buttered on. Leg muscles will form nicely with it making it easier to butter.
 
14360489:bananaman123431 said:
i have vishnu wets but i’m really light (130 lbs) so that’s definitely not helping but thanks in going to try this stuff.
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Make sure ur boots are cranked u want ur weight to go through your skis not into ur boot. Good luck!
 
14361144:nick.boerner said:
Make sure ur boots are cranked u want ur weight to go through your skis not into ur boot. Good luck!
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this is a good point, butters are more difficult if you dont have a good heel lock in your boot
 
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