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Naw JK.

He thinks people who join the military are a bunch of suckers and losers. Even Fox News cannot refute details of the story. Why doesn't Trump sue them for defamation? Oh right, because the sources are legit and can be provided in court if needed.

Damn, son. Even if the parts Fox News confirmed are true, how the fuck can you still support this fat, draft-dodging asshole who insulted POWs by stating he doesn't like people who were captured?

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topic:skierman said:
Naw JK.

He thinks people who join the military are a bunch of suckers and losers. Even Fox News cannot refute details of the story. Why doesn't Trump sue them for defamation? Oh right, because the sources are legit and can be provided in court if needed.

Damn, son. Even if the parts Fox News confirmed are true, how the fuck can you still support this fat, draft-dodging asshole who insulted POWs by stating he doesn't like people who were captured?

Are you stupid or blind? LMK in the comments below. Please press the subscribe button so you can get notified whenever I point out another flaw in Trump supporters' logic. Thanks!

**This thread was edited on Sep 4th 2020 at 9:28:55pm
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Of course you fell for the latest hoax.
 
14171171:T.L. said:
Of course you fell for the latest hoax.
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If that is true, Trump will be able to sue them for defamation in court.... which will never happen.... because its true.... and you're fucking idiot who doesn't know how society functions.
 
14171188:skierman said:
If that is true, Trump will be able to sue them for defamation in court.... which will never happen.... because its true.... and you're fucking idiot who doesn't know how society functions.
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If only Trump knew who to sue... oh wait.. The Atlantic's only sources are mysteriously anonymous. This is all based of the thoroughly debunked veterans memorial rainstorm hoax that they already tried and failed so here we are with 2.0.

FOIA docs were released that proved that was all a hoax and you probably fell for that too.

Even John Bolton, the warhawk who wrote a whole book about how much he hates Trump said its fake news.

You're saying I don't know how society functions? Do you not think people just make shit up to try and get clicks? To try and swing voters right before an election? To try and sow dissent among obvious supporters for Trump?

The Atlantic has been in the business of fake news for over a century. This is nothing new.

You think it's true because you WANT it to be true.
 
14171192:T.L. said:
If only Trump knew who to sue... oh wait.. The Atlantic's only sources are mysteriously anonymous. This is all based of the thoroughly debunked veterans memorial rainstorm hoax that they already tried and failed so here we are with 2.0.

FOIA docs were released that proved that was all a hoax and you probably fell for that too.

Even John Bolton, the warhawk who wrote a whole book about how much he hates Trump said its fake news.

You're saying I don't know how society functions? Do you not think people just make shit up to try and get clicks? To try and swing voters right before an election? To try and sow dissent among obvious supporters for Trump?

The Atlantic has been in the business of fake news for over a century. This is nothing new.

You think it's true because you WANT it to be true.
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Its hilarious how you think the entire article is about the reason why Trump bailed on visiting a graveyard. You don't read, do you?
 
14171255:skierman said:
Its hilarious how you think the entire article is about the reason why Trump bailed on visiting a graveyard. You don't read, do you?
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Seems like you don’t do much of that either.
 
lol, skierman pretending his voice matters again. He spends so much time hating trump that it's ruining his own life, go outside and be happy you bum
 
14171261:skierman said:
Show me where Bolton said the story was completely false.
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I really don’t care about this story man sorry. I’m still waiting for you to respond to your call of “bullshit” in regards to the rise in illegal immigrant deaths under Obama, but maybe you backed off when you realized how wrong you were.
 
but... but... but... the Liberals are gonna burn down white America and institute COMMUNISM. We need to do a literal genocide against these communists! ALL HAIL TRUMP GLOURIIUS LEADUER!
 
14171255:skierman said:
Its hilarious how you think the entire article is about the reason why Trump bailed on visiting a graveyard. You don't read, do you?
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Lets walk through it, shall we?

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true. [This is entirely fake. FOIA documents have proved it.]

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed. [According to 4 anonymous sources who hate Trump said some shit. Ok, prove it]

Belleau Wood is a consequential battle in American history, and the ground on which it was fought is venerated by the Marine Corps. America and its allies stopped the German advance toward Paris there in the spring of 1918. But Trump, on that same trip, asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?” He also said that he didn’t understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the Allies. [More quotes and alleged things he said that they can't prove]

Trump’s understanding of concepts such as patriotism, service, and sacrifice has interested me since he expressed contempt for the war record of the late Senator John McCain, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese. “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said in 2015 while running for the Republican nomination for president. “I like people who weren’t captured.” [Seen by many as a distasteful thing to say to john mccain but hilarious considering how huge of a piece of shit he was and what he did when he was captured.]

There was no precedent in American politics for the expression of this sort of contempt, but the performatively patriotic Trump did no damage to his candidacy by attacking McCain in this manner. Nor did he set his campaign back by attacking the parents of Humayun Khan, an Army captain who was killed in Iraq in 2004. [The DNC found parents of a Muslim soldier who died in combat and put them up on stage at the convention in Philly to talk shit on Trump. They claimed that Trump wanted to get rid all Muslims from the country. All while the father was waving his arms and hands around in front of his wife's face. It looked ridiculous. Trump made a comment saying that he wouldn't let his wife speak and everyone lost their mind because they know it's true.. In many countries muslim women are not allowed to speak and have a worth half of that of a man. They gaslit Trump, he gaslit back. So be it, maybe not the most presidential thing ever done but idgaf]

Trump remained fixated on McCain, one of the few prominent Republicans to continue criticizing him after he won the nomination. When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser,” the president told aides. Trump was not invited to McCain’s funeral. (These sources, and others quoted in this article, spoke on condition of anonymity. The White House did not return earlier calls for comment, but Alyssa Farah, a White House spokesperson, emailed me this statement shortly after this story was posted: “This report is false. President Trump holds the military in the highest regard. He’s demonstrated his commitment to them at every turn: delivering on his promise to give our troops a much needed pay raise, increasing military spending, signing critical veterans reforms, and supporting military spouses. This has no basis in fact.”) [According to anonymous sources, guys!!! That's it, pack it up. Everything anonymous sources say is true so no worries!]

Trump’s understanding of heroism has not evolved since he became president. According to sources with knowledge of the president’s views, he seems to genuinely not understand why Americans treat former prisoners of war with respect. Nor does he understand why pilots who are shot down in combat are honored by the military. On at least two occasions since becoming president, according to three sources with direct knowledge of his views, Trump referred to former President George H. W. Bush as a “loser” for being shot down by the Japanese as a Navy pilot in World War II. (Bush escaped capture, but eight other men shot down during the same mission were caught, tortured, and executed by Japanese soldiers.) [ANONYMOUS SOURCES WITH KNOWLEDGE OF HIS VIEWS! GAME OVER! This shit is retarded. This is not real journalism. We've seen this since day one. "People familiar with his thinking", "Sources who know the president believe XYZ", "People familiar with the matter" This is not how journalism is supposed to work.]

When lashing out at critics, Trump often reaches for illogical and corrosive insults, and members of the Bush family have publicly opposed him. But his cynicism about service and heroism extends even to the World War I dead buried outside Paris—people who were killed more than a quarter century before he was born. Trump finds the notion of military service difficult to understand, and the idea of volunteering to serve especially incomprehensible. (The president did not serve in the military; he received a medical deferment from the draft during the Vietnam War because of the alleged presence of bone spurs in his feet. In the 1990s, Trump said his efforts to avoid contracting sexually transmitted diseases constituted his “personal Vietnam.”) [Back on the debunked WW1 memorial nonsense..."wHen lAsHing OuT aT cRitcS...." you mean, "When responding to people who have an unhealthy obsession with talking shit on a President that doesn't just sit there and take the beating like a pussy". If he doesn't fight back he must be guilty of what's claimed, if he responds with the same level of contempt he's given, he's lashing out.]

On Memorial Day 2017, Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, a short drive from the White House. He was accompanied on this visit by John Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, and who would, a short time later, be named the White House chief of staff. The two men were set to visit Section 60, the 14-acre area of the cemetery that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars. Kelly’s son Robert is buried in Section 60. A first lieutenant in the Marine Corps, Robert Kelly was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan. He was 29. Trump was meant, on this visit, to join John Kelly in paying respects at his son’s grave, and to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources with knowledge of this visit, Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Kelly (who declined to comment for this story) initially believed, people close to him said, that Trump was making a ham-handed reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices. [2020 Journalism = "According to sources with knowledge of this visit" & John Kelly declined to comment but "people close to him said..."]

“He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself,” one of Kelly’s friends, a retired four-star general, told me. “He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker. There’s no money in serving the nation.” Kelly’s friend went on to say, “Trump can’t imagine anyone else’s pain. That’s why he would say this to the father of a fallen marine on Memorial Day in the cemetery where he’s buried.” [Kelly's friend, Kelly's friend...]

I’ve asked numerous general officers over the past year for their analysis of Trump’s seeming contempt for military service. They offer a number of explanations. Some of his cynicism is rooted in frustration, they say. Trump, unlike previous presidents, tends to believe that the military, like other departments of the federal government, is beholden only to him, and not the Constitution. Many senior officers have expressed worry about Trump’s understanding of the rules governing the use of the armed forces. This issue came to a head in early June, during demonstrations in Washington, D.C., in response to police killings of Black people. James Mattis, the retired Marine general and former secretary of defense, lambasted Trump at the time for ordering law-enforcement officers to forcibly clear protesters from Lafayette Square, and for using soldiers as props: “When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution,” Mattis wrote. “Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.” [fucking mattis... Complaining about soldiers taking photos with the President and making claims about Lafayette square, a situation he's totally unfamiliar with and only knows what he saw on TV, is ridiculous. Solders have been taking photos with Presidents since forever and weighing in a domestic situation so that he can get soundbites for whatever cable news program he's on to help sell his book is pathetic for a man who used to command such an enormous amount of respect.]

Another explanation is more quotidian, and aligns with a broader understanding of Trump’s material-focused worldview. The president believes that nothing is worth doing without the promise of monetary payback, and that talented people who don’t pursue riches are “losers.” (According to eyewitnesses, after a White House briefing given by the then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joe Dunford, Trump turned to aides and said, “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?”) ["According to eyewitnesses". You see a trend here? There's braver people in Hong Kong speaking out and putting their name on the line for their ideas and opinions than in these "sources" in DC]

Yet another, related, explanation concerns what appears to be Trump’s pathological fear of appearing to look like a “sucker” himself. His capacious definition of sucker includes those who lose their lives in service to their country, as well as those who are taken prisoner, or are wounded in battle. “He has a lot of fear,” one officer with firsthand knowledge of Trump’s views said. “He doesn’t see the heroism in fighting.” Several observers told me that Trump is deeply anxious about dying or being disfigured, and this worry manifests itself as disgust for those who have suffered. Trump recently claimed that he has received the bodies of slain service members “many, many” times, but in fact he has traveled to Dover Air Force Base, the transfer point for the remains of fallen service members, only four times since becoming president. In another incident, Trump falsely claimed that he had called “virtually all” of the families of service members who had died during his term, then began rush-shipping condolence letters when families said the president was not telling the truth. ["One officer with firsthand knowledge of Trump's views said..." & "Several observers"... More mysterious people that are too cowardly to attach their name to the things they're allegedly saying. It doesn't matter what Trump does, it's never enough for the media. 'Trump said 'many, many' but it was only 4. 4 is not 'many, many' so we must impeach him for lying".]

Trump has been, for the duration of his presidency, fixated on staging military parades, but only of a certain sort. In a 2018 White House planning meeting for such an event, Trump asked his staff not to include wounded veterans, on grounds that spectators would feel uncomfortable in the presence of amputees. “Nobody wants to see that,” he said. [If this was said during a planning meeting in the White House it would be on the official record. I don't see that here so.. fake fuckin news]

This article lacks substance, integrity, authenticity, and just about everything else that's supposed to make journalism trustworthy. If this is what you find credible, you can't be helped.

If my car could run on "anonymous sources familiar with Trump's thinking", I could stuff this article in my gas tank and drive the perimeter of the United States like I've always wanted to do.
 
14171299:T.L. said:
This article lacks substance, integrity, authenticity, and just about everything else that's supposed to make journalism trustworthy. If this is what you find credible, you can't be helped.

If my car could run on "anonymous sources familiar with Trump's thinking", I could stuff this article in my gas tank and drive the perimeter of the United States like I've always wanted to do.
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Oh yes, I'm sure the reporter who has two decades of accurate reporting all of a sudden made up a story about Trump trashing veterans and service members which Trump has done openly in public with sources that have been corroborated by all news agencies including Fox.

BTW where was Bolton's statement saying the story was untrue? I'll wait.
 
14171313:skierman said:
Oh yes, I'm sure the reporter who has two decades of accurate reporting all of a sudden made up a story about Trump trashing veterans and service members which Trump has done openly in public with sources that have been corroborated by all news agencies including Fox.

BTW where was Bolton's statement saying the story was untrue? I'll wait.
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He has a segment in his book about it but here's a video where he's talking about it.
https://twitter.com/TVNewsHQ/status/1302133965084667906
 
14171313:skierman said:
Oh yes, I'm sure the reporter who has two decades of accurate reporting all of a sudden made up a story about Trump trashing veterans and service members which Trump has done openly in public with sources that have been corroborated by all news agencies including Fox.

BTW where was Bolton's statement saying the story was untrue? I'll wait.
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Wait a second.... If Bolton is a legit source, then you must accept his other accounts of Trump being a fucking scumbag by telling China they're making the right decision for opening up concentration camps for the Uighurs, right?

Bolton also stated Trump purposely killed investigations into authoritarians, begged China to rig the election in his favor and Trump supported Saudi Arabia executing a U.S. resident reporter just to distract away from his daughter's corruption.

So which is it lil Trumpie fan boy? You cannot have it both ways. No matter how you slice it, you're blindly supporting the biggest piece of shit to hold the office.
 
14171332:skierman said:
Wait a second.... If Bolton is a legit source, then you must accept his other accounts of Trump being a fucking scumbag by telling China they're making the right decision for opening up concentration camps for the Uighurs, right?

Bolton also stated Trump purposely killed investigations into authoritarians, begged China to rig the election in his favor and Trump supported Saudi Arabia executing a U.S. resident reporter just to distract away from his daughter's corruption.

So which is it lil Trumpie fan boy? You cannot have it both ways. No matter how you slice it, you're blindly supporting the biggest piece of shit to hold the office.
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Lmao you asked for the source, I provided it.
 
14171332:skierman said:
Wait a second.... If Bolton is a legit source, then you must accept his other accounts of Trump being a fucking scumbag by telling China they're making the right decision for opening up concentration camps for the Uighurs, right?

Bolton also stated Trump purposely killed investigations into authoritarians, begged China to rig the election in his favor and Trump supported Saudi Arabia executing a U.S. resident reporter just to distract away from his daughter's corruption.

So which is it lil Trumpie fan boy? You cannot have it both ways. No matter how you slice it, you're blindly supporting the biggest piece of shit to hold the office.
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“He was prone to say from time to time: ‘What did they get out of it? What was the worth of the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan?’” Bolton said. “That is a kind of insensitivity that Trump does have, there’s no doubt about it.”

“I didn’t hear him say those things,” he said, adding later he probably would have included the remarks in his book if he had. “Now, did he say those things to other people later in the day? It’s certainly possible.”

I have not heard anybody say, ‘Oh, that doesn’t sound like the Donald Trump I know,’” Bolton said in the interview. Bolton said the remarks may have stemmed from Trump’s skepticism of U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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It's kinda ironic when you think about it, because without the military/secret service etc.. he'd be toast.
 
14171630:SnowshoeThompson said:
here’s the article being referenced
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/615997/

I was looking for the Atlantic article that talked about him expanding military budget, pulling troops from Germany and Middle East and veteran health care reform expanding coverage but I couldn’t find anything.
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Veteran reform? I'm assuming you mean the Veteran's Choice healthcare program? The one Trump constantly brags about and takes credit for even though it was passed under Obama?

GRATE JOB!
 
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