keep in mind that the 179 actually a lot longer than 179cm - probably somewhere around 182-3cm tip to tail... the 179 Seth measures true, and I had it next to the HB which was easily 3-4 cms longer... it is a ton of fun, and for as big as it is, it's pretty damn versatile - can be skied in total control on groomers/back to the lift - one of our team riders, Jonny Scott, skied them in the park and was fine on them, but he's not really mortal.