I think these are a pretty sweet boot, I haven't gotten the fit perfect yet, still get some cramping... I've only been in them for 6 legitimate days though... I have been using superfeet footbeds that are too big so once I get the correct size footbeds in them I think they will be spot on perfect... Still not quite broken in, but they fit fairly wide in the forefoot and narrower in the heel... really have a great heel hold around the achilles area, Im 5-10 190 and flex is perfect for the type of skiing I do which is generally all mtn, bumps and I get into the park when its good, no shinbang to date...