Hate in the ski industry?

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Phoenixgrassl21

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I just wanted to bring up something that I have found about the ski community. I have only been skiing for 3 years, and have noticed the ski community filled with haters who don’t wanna see you succeed. I am a decent park skier, but still find people bitching about me because I am a nice skier. I love the side of skiing that’s hyped when you land a trick, stoked for you and encourages you to keep going. I guess that’s just harder to find in the ski industry? Maybe it’s just me but would love the input. It also must not be just me cus a lot of pro skiers do the shred hate thing
 
I’m pretty sure this chapter 1 in the psia instructor manual.

No hate on instructors in general. Just the semantics and the ego stroking that the system breeds.
 
I personally have not experienced much hate on my skiing - other than from patrol for going too fast or some shit - but I think there is a huge distortion of first, good skiing and second, the status of a skier within the industry.

Media - specifically video media - has hugely distorted people's standards and their expectations of what they can achieve. You can see your favorite pro or semi-pro or "local pro" do an obscure, complex trick and then the community around that skier expects to be able and expects others to be able to do that trick. This creates, pressure and under pressure people act out, accuse and blame others for ultimately their own failure. Don't get me wrong, I think video is a crucial part of the development of freestyle skiing but I think skiers need to put down the phone, look at the video less, and instigate their own creativity from the pure experience of being on the mountain.

Take a look at the old "hot doggers". The standard of being a "good" skier was making it down the bumps with perhaps some speed and maybe MAYBE a trick.
 
14600308:ski_joe said:
I personally have not experienced much hate on my skiing - other than from patrol for going too fast or some shit - but I think there is a huge distortion of first, good skiing and second, the status of a skier within the industry.

Media - specifically video media - has hugely distorted people's standards and their expectations of what they can achieve. You can see your favorite pro or semi-pro or "local pro" do an obscure, complex trick and then the community around that skier expects to be able and expects others to be able to do that trick. This creates, pressure and under pressure people act out, accuse and blame others for ultimately their own failure. Don't get me wrong, I think video is a crucial part of the development of freestyle skiing but I think skiers need to put down the phone, look at the video less, and instigate their own creativity from the pure experience of being on the mountain.

Take a look at the old "hot doggers". The standard of being a "good" skier was making it down the bumps with perhaps some speed and maybe MAYBE a trick.
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Yeah I totally agree thanks for the input!

I definitely didn’t notice it as much when I was just starting but now that I have a following and am reaching a lot of people it all just come poring in!
 
14600327:skiP.E.I. said:
Didn't you recently make a thread hating on the way someone was skiing in a SLVSH game?
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I wasn’t hating at all, sorry if it came out that way, I actually love Noah he’s such an OG skier and I have big respect! Just sad to see the same trick when he has so many other tricks on his bag
 
Hot take: There isn’t even that much hate in the ski industry at all. Not liking somebodies trick selection/edit/style isn’t hate, you are just a human being with a basic opinion. You don’t need to live in rainbow fairy land and pretend that you like everything to not hurt someones feelings. The problem isn’t “haters”, the problem is that I stg 90% of you kids have the emotional stability of a 14 year old girl on their period because you have never been actually criticized a day in your life. Idk if people are just raised to be soft af nowadays but if someone literally commented on a vid of mine and said they don’t like my style and my video is wack, It would be a minor inconvenience on my mental health that lasts about 3 mins while I consider the possibility that they may actually be right, in which case I would try to do better next time. Thats the way to handle criticism. Plus, most disrespectful comments are just people exaggerating to be funny or get a reaction.

Dear skiing, please be respectful to other people in the comments but get some goddamn balls ffs. Jesus christ.
 
14600357:BLandz said:
Hot take: There isn’t even that much hate in the ski industry at all. Not liking somebodies trick selection/edit/style isn’t hate, you are just a human being with a basic opinion. You don’t need to live in rainbow fairy land and pretend that you like everything to not hurt someones feelings. The problem isn’t “haters”, the problem is that I stg 90% of you kids have the emotional stability of a 14 year old girl on their period because you have never been actually criticized a day in your life. Idk if people are just raised to be soft af nowadays but if someone literally commented on a vid of mine and said they don’t like my style and my video is wack, It would be a minor inconvenience on my mental health that lasts about 3 mins while I consider the possibility that they may actually be right, in which case I would try to do better next time. Thats the way to handle criticism. Plus, most disrespectful comments are just people exaggerating to be funny or get a reaction.

Dear skiing, please be respectful to other people in the comments but get some goddamn balls ffs. Jesus christ.
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Hey man I actually agree on the part a lot of people have bad emotional control now a days, that’s not me, I’m talking about real hat like people threatening and stuff, and I don’t mind the hat too much it doesn’t get to me, I was just wondering wye the ski industry is not too welcoming to new upcoming skiers, like the people not wanting you too succeed that’s all G
 
14600358:Phoenixgrassl21 said:
Hey man I actually agree on the part a lot of people have bad emotional control now a days, that’s not me, I’m talking about real hat like people threatening and stuff, and I don’t mind the hat too much it doesn’t get to me, I was just wondering wye the ski industry is not too welcoming to new upcoming skiers, like the people not wanting you too succeed that’s all G
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That wasnt directed towards you my b. But where is the threatening lmao, Joss said the same thing and I have never seen a threatening comment on a ski vid in my life
 
14600375:BLandz said:
That wasnt directed towards you my b. But where is the threatening lmao, Joss said the same thing and I have never seen a threatening comment on a ski vid in my life
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Ya I have got a couple actually, mainly just on instagram
 
Thats every industry. Keep the real ones close and be unapologetic. You will learn to let is slide soon enough.
 
14600329:Phoenixgrassl21 said:
I wasn’t hating at all, sorry if it came out that way, I actually love Noah he’s such an OG skier and I have big respect! Just sad to see the same trick when he has so many other tricks on his bag
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See this is why the hate in the ski/board community is so insidious. They'll talk shit on the chair when someone's riding and can't hear them then dap them up at the bottom and say what up homie. So much backhanded judgement and then they turn around and claim they ain't being a shitty lil playa hater.

IDK I think a lot of it is just projection, people aren't happy with the way they ride or do a trick so they just shit on others any chance they get. We all look like ass clowns lets be real and enjoy what we do, and support our peers trying their best.
 
topic:Phoenixgrassl21 said:
I just wanted to bring up something that I have found about the ski community. I have only been skiing for 3 years, and have noticed the ski community filled with haters who don’t wanna see you succeed. I am a decent park skier, but still find people bitching about me because I am a nice skier. I love the side of skiing that’s hyped when you land a trick, stoked for you and encourages you to keep going. I guess that’s just harder to find in the ski industry? Maybe it’s just me but would love the input. It also must not be just me cus a lot of pro skiers do the shred hate thing
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Tall poppy syndrome, peeps wanna keep ya in the mud, just shrug them off, if you are good ya good. Being a hater is cool nowadays
 
My issue is the rampant mismanagement and treatment of workforces in the industry, and how it's just accepted especially at larger resorts that you're gonna have to eat a ton of shit from all sorts of managers and department heads.
 
topic:Phoenixgrassl21 said:
I just wanted to bring up something that I have found about the ski community. I have only been skiing for 3 years, and have noticed the ski community filled with haters who don’t wanna see you succeed. I am a decent park skier, but still find people bitching about me because I am a nice skier. I love the side of skiing that’s hyped when you land a trick, stoked for you and encourages you to keep going. I guess that’s just harder to find in the ski industry? Maybe it’s just me but would love the input. It also must not be just me cus a lot of pro skiers do the shred hate thing
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yeah thats skiing for you, even on the professional level its crazy how many salty bubbles there are.

best to ignore all that ski w/ your day one's and enjoy it for yourself. social media made it by far worse then it ever was. people get super puff'd up
 
14600308:ski_joe said:
I personally have not experienced much hate on my skiing - other than from patrol for going too fast or some shit - but I think there is a huge distortion of first, good skiing and second, the status of a skier within the industry.

Media - specifically video media - has hugely distorted people's standards and their expectations of what they can achieve. You can see your favorite pro or semi-pro or "local pro" do an obscure, complex trick and then the community around that skier expects to be able and expects others to be able to do that trick. This creates, pressure and under pressure people act out, accuse and blame others for ultimately their own failure. Don't get me wrong, I think video is a crucial part of the development of freestyle skiing but I think skiers need to put down the phone, look at the video less, and instigate their own creativity from the pure experience of being on the mountain.

Take a look at the old "hot doggers". The standard of being a "good" skier was making it down the bumps with perhaps some speed and maybe MAYBE a trick.
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Agree. Being trash is the norm and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
I deleted maybe 20 vids from my YouTube because I had so many haters, it's so mellow now I remember kids telling me to kill myself cuz the edits I made when I was 14 were super bad
 
People spewing horrendous yap on Instagram and YouTube isn’t hate in the ski community, it’s outside the community and typically sad people that are jealous.
 
it’s okay bro once you become a legal adult you will realize that literally every hater in skiing is just 17 year old club freestyle kids and once they also become adults they either become pro and naturally humble or shamefully washed and terrified to talk shit
 
[tag=198199]@TRVP_ANGEL[/tag] called me a fucking weeb on one of my edits a while back. One of my favorite internet memories and I’m glad he is now a moderator of this website
 
14600462:TOAST. said:
a little hate is needed. I don't want to see sideways landings or ride on urban rails in edits.
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This shouldn’t be getting downvotes. If newschool skiing didn’t have haters in the early days, we would still be watching clips of missed grabs, shitty pencil spins and clips that end before showing the landing
 
You should slap that on a bumper sticker, you're so wise

14600357:BLandz said:
Hot take: There isn’t even that much hate in the ski industry at all. Not liking somebodies trick selection/edit/style isn’t hate, you are just a human being with a basic opinion. You don’t need to live in rainbow fairy land and pretend that you like everything to not hurt someones feelings. The problem isn’t “haters”, the problem is that I stg 90% of you kids have the emotional stability of a 14 year old girl on their period because you have never been actually criticized a day in your life. Idk if people are just raised to be soft af nowadays but if someone literally commented on a vid of mine and said they don’t like my style and my video is wack, It would be a minor inconvenience on my mental health that lasts about 3 mins while I consider the possibility that they may actually be right, in which case I would try to do better next time. Thats the way to handle criticism. Plus, most disrespectful comments are just people exaggerating to be funny or get a reaction.

Dear skiing, please be respectful to other people in the comments but get some goddamn balls ffs. Jesus christ.
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14600411:g_lectrolyte said:
See this is why the hate in the ski/board community is so insidious. They'll talk shit on the chair when someone's riding and can't hear them then dap them up at the bottom and say what up homie. So much backhanded judgement and then they turn around and claim they ain't being a shitty lil playa hater.

IDK I think a lot of it is just projection, people aren't happy with the way they ride or do a trick so they just shit on others any chance they get. We all look like ass clowns lets be real and enjoy what we do, and support our peers trying their best.
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Took me so long to get over that starting out when I was younger, especially when the park is right below the lift. Was more afraid of embarrassing myself than getting hurt. Felt like I couldn't try anything new because I was being judged constantly. Thankfully though once you talk to some people at the top of the run most people dgaf, and actually trying some shit is much more respectable than being a side-jumping nuisance. Also as u get older u just care less about what other people think
 
14600702:hi_vis360 said:
This shouldn’t be getting downvotes. If newschool skiing didn’t have haters in the early days, we would still be watching clips of missed grabs, shitty pencil spins and clips that end before showing the landing
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Idk man, people hating didn't make me change a thing except for not posting videos. Had literally 0 impact on any decisions I made ever with regards to how i skied, you dont consciously think about what people say about you until they actually say it, and when they do you get more jaded real quick and start doing the opposite deliberately.

Not just me either remember when Durham Jones was getting hella hate on this site, opened up the thread and talked shit back, and changed absolutely nothing about his skiing?

Be a hater or not I don't personally care, I just think it has no impact on how someone will ride in the future
 
14600880:Farmville420 said:
Idk man, people hating didn't make me change a thing except for not posting videos. Had literally 0 impact on any decisions I made ever with regards to how i skied, you dont consciously think about what people say about you until they actually say it, and when they do you get more jaded real quick and start doing the opposite deliberately.

Not just me either remember when Durham Jones was getting hella hate on this site, opened up the thread and talked shit back, and changed absolutely nothing about his skiing?

Be a hater or not I don't personally care, I just think it has no impact on how someone will ride in the future
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I’m really interested to see how street crews react to all the shovel the stairs hate last fall. My bet is that the forre boys put in some serious shoveling hours this winter. I know I made sure the stairs were clean when I hit a spot this winter, and that was directly influenced by people leaving hater ass comments on other videos. I’m glad for it, the clips would’ve looked terrible if I had left snow on the stairs
 
14600949:hi_vis360 said:
I’m really interested to see how street crews react to all the shovel the stairs hate last fall. My bet is that the forre boys put in some serious shoveling hours this winter. I know I made sure the stairs were clean when I hit a spot this winter, and that was directly influenced by people leaving hater ass comments on other videos. I’m glad for it, the clips would’ve looked terrible if I had left snow on the stairs
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I think that's a little different tho, nobody was hating really, but they were definitely criticizing. Hating is like calling things "whack" and saying that somebody does or looks "stupid" or that the videos they make are "ass". Seamus Flanagan asking "how come you guys didn't shovel the stairs? Genuinely curious" isn't the same as "this shit is ass and your style is whack, delete this"
 
14600956:Farmville420 said:
I think that's a little different tho, nobody was hating really, but they were definitely criticizing. Hating is like calling things "whack" and saying that somebody does or looks "stupid" or that the videos they make are "ass". Seamus Flanagan asking "how come you guys didn't shovel the stairs? Genuinely curious" isn't the same as "this shit is ass and your style is whack, delete this"
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Agree 100% so what category do you think the Noah hate falls into? I’m saying it’s more in the criticism category, people just want people to not do niche tricks over and over in slvsh weather it’s Noah or Vinny. Also a hall should’ve gotten the same criticism for doing a shitload of shifty taps in that old slvsh cup
 
I had a stroke trying to understand what this thread is about. How can you have haters if noone knows who you are? It's all in ur head, quit being a lil bitch OP.
 
14600378:Phoenixgrassl21 said:
Ya I have got a couple actually, mainly just on instagram
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bro what on earth did you do in an edit that was so whack someone had to threaten you? I'm actually so confused on this. like death threats? the only situation I could see that happening is if you did lip on front two in which case there's no sympathy from me
 
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