Grade school zero tolerance policies make me sick...

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/18/new.york.doodle.arrest/index.html?hpt=C1

"There was no profanity, no hate. Just the words, "I love my friends

Abby and Faith. Lex was here 2/1/10 :)" scrawled on the classroom desk

with a green marker.
Alexa Gonzalez, an outgoing 12-year-old who

likes to dance and draw, expected a lecture or maybe detention for her

doodles earlier this month. Instead, the principal of the Junior High

School in Forest Hills, New York, called police, and the seventh-grader

was taken across the street to the police precinct.


Alexa's

hands were cuffed behind her back, and tears gushed as she was escorted

from school in front of teachers and -- the worst audience of all for a

preadolescent girl -- her classmates.


"They put the handcuffs on

me, and I couldn't believe it," Alexa recalled. "I didn't want them to

see me being handcuffed, thinking I'm a bad person."
"

Stuff like this is infuriating to me. What happened to the days when you got in trouble and had to stay after school to clean the desks? Those were only a couple of years ago. Now everyone is in such a lockdown mode that anytime there is anything at all they have to severely over exaggerate the situation.

On top of all this, schools are bad enough with peer pressure and self-esteem issues and the like. Something like this could really fuck with the psyche of a 12 year old and who knows how it may affect them later in life.

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inner city school. black student. They did this by the books. technically by law it is vandilism of school property and they booked her for it. totally uncalled for tho. i have no idea what those people were thinking. maybe they thought they could make an example of her?
 
Are you fucking kidding me? Fuck this shit, how is this supposed to help anything? Oh, this little girl loves her friends and wants to draw it on a desk, so lets put her in handcuffs because she's a dangerous criminal.

I lose more and more faith in America every time this kind of thing happens. Like the elementary school kids who got in trouble for bringing in a multi-eating utensil. Americans need to stop being fucking idiots and realize that by punishing these kinds of people, they are creating distrust in the system.

If anyone know who I can complain to, please tell me, I want this bullshit to stop.
 
Maybe this will infuriate you guys a little more than?

"High School students have sued the Lower Merion School District in

Philadelphia for spying on them using their laptops' built-in cameras.

School administrator used software to activate the webcams and record

students' activities at home. Way to go, KGB-wannabe assclowns.


The situation was discovered by the Robbins, when their kid was

disciplined for "improper behavior in his home." How could that be

possible? The Vice Principal showed a photo as the evidence. A photo

taken with the school-provided laptop webcam.


If the lawsuit accusations are true, I hope they ground these slimy people forever."



http://gizmodo.com/5474614/school-spies-students-through-their-laptop-cameras

How fucked is that?
 
I live in Forest Hills. i remember seeing this on the news last week and thinking how ridicolous it was. yeah its in the city but i wouldnt classify as inner city in the sense that its a shitty neighborhood becuase it def isnt. shame on the principal but also shame on the cops.
 
She should go back to School and shoot the teacher. At least then there would be a reason to arrest her.

If writing on the desk was a criminal offense in my country I'd of got the death penalty!
 
What the fuck????? What if some kid jerked it? Then the school could get in troubled for producing child pornography. The kid also might end up killing himself.

Fuck this overbearing school bullshit. It's high school, what kids do at home should not be the school's business.
 
I'm totally going to be on my child's pta board to stop shit like this. School's need to learn that parents should be the one's disciplining their children. Some parents probably need to learn it as well.
 
High school is bull shit sometimes. My friend wrote a note on facebook, no names mentioned but her close friends obviously knew who it was about. One girl prints it off and takes it to our principal and everyone who commented on the note, even just writing, "lol", had to come to a big meeting at lunch about bullying and such. Some kids got sent to the office during the meeting because they put up their hand asking, "how can you do this, its not related to school in anyway."
Pretty sure no one got expelled, but everyone got a phone call home which isn't too bad. Still pretty dumb though.
 


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this shit is only gonna get worse as time goes on. in the future, we

will be able to see things before they happen so you will get owned

before you can even do something stupid. like that movie Minority Report
 
while the punishment was way too excessive....she did vandalize school property. And you can't let that slide. Because then if one kid gets away with it, all of them will. And then the desks will be pieces of shit, and they'll have to get new ones, and that costs a lot of money. I hated it in school when i had to write on a desk that had shit carved into it, and frankly, me, nor anyone else, gave a shit that some girl loves her friends, and was in that desk on a certain date.

They should have just told her not to do it, and had her stay after school to clean it off or some minor punishment.
 
...thats what i said they should do?

I meant having the police come and shit was just excessive as hell. You must not have read my whole post.
 
Shit, thats harsh. Glad I don't live in America anymore. One time i got caught throwing light bulbs out of the school windows, from the 4th floor and the teacher didn't even call my parents. My school had some pretty sick graffiti on the walls and the principle let it stay because it lookrf good to the students. Damn, wish i was still in high school
 
Alright well i was frustrated with shit like this at first but im just starting to get really POed
 
Zero tolerance policies are so fucking ridiculous. About 5 years ago when I was in 8th grade in jr. high I got arrested for turning a vending machine ON. Apparently the school turned them off but I didn't know and got arrested for it. The principal dropped the charge of tampering with school property but it was the craziest thing that ever happened to me and everyone was shocked especially the teachers because of my 4.0 gpa. Fuck these bullshit rules.
 
The other day this big black kid named marcus had pudding thrown on his face, so he proceeded to beat the living shit out of the kid that threw it. He was taken out in handcuffs with pudding still on his face.
 
my school is full of rules like these they suck. i got a detention(the usall punishment is suspention) for using sarcasm and a girl then lied to the deans about it and said it made her feel un welcome. mean while the same girl was bullying other kids
 
At my old high school where my brother goes now they added a line down the hallway. You have to walk down the right side of the hallway and you can't cross the line unless you are changing direction or going to your locker or something. If you stop to talk to kids in the hallway you get a detention.

WTF is up with that. Time between classes gives you a chance to unwind for a few minutes before your next class. They are turning school in to a prison.
 
thats retarded. the only thing my school did like that was ban cellphones, and if you get caught with one the principal can take it for the rest of the day, or the weekend. not even that bad of a rule.
 
thats still a little weird though cause you're not on school property on the weekend and they shouldnt be allowed to punish you. at my school the most they'll do is take your phone and you have to pick it up after 8th period.
 
zero tolerance policies are complete bullshit, they are trying to do it with cell phones which is stupi. I use my phone to send my dad messages telling him or finding out what my brother and sister's plans are and getting important information to and from him, it's bullshit if I should be the one to loose my phone because I was helping my family out because Suzy Q. Whorepants is sexting in school too much.
 
But the problem is that some parents just let their kids run free. These are the kids that cause the most rouble cause their parents don't really dicipline them. Calling the cops is extreme, but doodling is stupid anyway
 
yeah you gotta admit the girl was pretty retarded to do it right in front of a teacher. It reminds me of how retarded hispanic criminals are
 
I personally believe that there are many kids that need to have the living shit beaten out of them, it would be a learning experience, right?

 
Update to the last part about the school spying on students with laptops:

"According to a Washington Post report from early this morning, the school district has admitted to remotely activating its laptops' webcams forty-two times over

the last 2 years. Now the FBI is involved, determining if the school

district violated any wiretapping or computer-privacy laws in the

process.

The school district maintains that the webcams were only accessed in

efforts to retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but this whole mess stems

from the punishment of a student in which a webcam shot, snapped while

the student was in his home, was cited as evidence of wrongdoing. The

extent to which the school abused its ability to access the webcams

isn't quite clear at this point, but the original incident makes the

school's defense about using them strictly as a security measure pretty

hard to believe."

"Details continue to trickle out about Lower Merion School District, their MacBook loan program, and the unsavory security practices they used to keep those computers safe. The latest: the school-supplied

MacBooks were required for classes and students could not use their own

personal machines in their place. Worse yet, it was impossible to

disable the laptops' iSight cameras and attempting to circumvent the

school's security software was grounds for expulsion.


All of this information comes courtesy of two security researchers,

"Stryde" and Aaron Rhodes, who have pored over the relevant LMSD

materials and even gone so far as to reverse-engineer LANRev, the

snooping software Lower Merion installed on its computers.

Of course, the people behind LANRev are now trying to distance

themselves from the school district as much as possible—"We discourage

any customer from taking theft recovery into their own hands," their

head of marketing explained—even though Mike Perbix, Lower Merion's

network technician, was featured prominently in a LANRev promotional

video from 2008."

http://gizmodo.com/5478446/at-laptop+spying-school-macbook-use-was-mandatory-tampering-grounds-for-expulsion

This is just amazing...you could actually be EXPELLED for disabling the software from being able to spy on you? I hope all the administration of this school get severely fucked by the law.

 
kinda reminds me of what happened at my school though i dont see how

anyways some guy phoned in to the school saying it was kick a ginger day tommorow so the principal went on to the come and told the entire school about it and im pretty sure there was a facebook group on it
 
I cannot wait for the first day of class when a kid tells me to fuck off, and i simply say to sit down with a smile. I know there will be tough days, but i am ready to give my all to help any student.
 
i know someone who got expelled for dealing weed but when he went to court the judge said that it was the principle who should've sorted it out and he didnt get into any legal troubles. weird
 
my principle is a complete phone nazi. one day he just walked in the classroom and took my friend's phone for no reason and walked out. if you want your phone back, your parents have to come pick it up in the office after school. to top it, i just learned today from one of the more reasonable teachers that my school can legally hand out police citations for disorderly conduct if they catch you with a phone. they said they're gonna start doing that
 
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