Oh okay, that makes more sense. Again, let me say then, that this is my favorite east coast all mountain ski. Not great in the park, because it isn't a full twin. But it rips everywhere else. Although you can't see the tip rocker at all, you can notice it when you ski these. When you flex these skis by hand they don't feel too stiff. But when you ski them, they hold an edge on any snow... and i'm heavy, and ski hard. They blast through crud and, and float good in soft stuff. They turn super nice too. Just an awesome all around east coast ski. If you buy these, you will be happy!
