I use a good amount or lean on my ride bindings like a 22 according to the binding. Never used it until I started really chargin lines. Slowly over time I found I wanted it more and more. but, I have a soft boot so that may be why. I always hated burtons foward lean/highbacks though, when I was younger and riding burton bindings I always took the highbacks off. I dont suggest this but its what I did.