Foils vs karmas vs PEs

.d.

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ok first off i have a question to ask:

Are the karmas an all mountain ski? or are they just park?

ok back to the thread...WHICH IS THE BEST SKI, OF THOSE 3, ARE THE BEST ALL MOUNTAIN AND PARK SKI IN UR OPINION?...I have the foils now and i like em a lot, but looking for a bit more stiffer ski. im demoing PEs tomarrow. and i want to demo the karmas later...so ya...just answer those 2 questions right now.

im guessing the answer will be karma, but i want ALL MOUNTAIN AND PARK and if the karma isnt all mountain then i dunno. just answer plz.
 
ok great thanks...that answers 1 question, now for the other...im starting to get really attracted to the karmas and i really want to demo them, but i still want some answers whether which is the best.
 
i have the foils, love em, but little too short for me soo looking to either buy the foils again or just karmas or PEs
 
foils are a completely different ski than the karma. karma are wood core reinforced with a metal layer whereas foils i believe are foam core. i own an old pair of 1080's, the orange ones, and they are a fun ski, really light and just enjoyable. in my experience, the karma is much different. its like it wants to be on the ground more, and is a super solid ski. the swing weight for the karma isn't great on the karma. but if i were powering through crud or hucking cliffs i'd rather have my karmas on. recently i have been skiing my new Scratch BC WRS and they are freaking sweet. so fun and light, plus they float so well.
 
pes blow.

they weigh a ton, and they just dont perform.

foils are probably the best of the three, but they'll kill your wallet.
 
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