Foil's or karmas

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bigcougar123

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i kno the rep for volkl but i cant decide which one to get i really like the foils however i cant decide which to get i'm

5'11" and 240lbs and im an expert skier
 
the foils are going to be a heck of a lot lighter than the karmas if ur going to ski park, but the karmas are also a stiffer more solid ski for everywhere than the foils.
 
As stated, the foils are lighter, but not so much that it should be a deal breaker...the Karmas are quite a bit stiffer, and hold a better edge on skectchy snow, they are also completely bombproof as far as durability goes. And they'll handle all-mountain better, in my opinion.
 
I'm 6-1, 200 and I've been going over the same decision. I think for guys in our weight class (you are in fact in a class above me), a stiffer ski is better. I handled the 05-06 karmas in my local shop the other day and they are actually pretty light. All skis feel light until you put bindings on them :) My only concern with the karmas has been, and remains

1) skiing switch (since this is hard to begin with, a stiff ski will make it extra tough)

2) bumps, if they are too stiff, the width will become a problem (though they are narrower in tip and tail than foils.
 
I will add one thing about salomons. I'm 200 and ski bumps/trees/park/powder pretty hard 30-40 days per season. I never felt that either of my Salomon skis were too soft (CR Lab and Pocket Rocket). I think it's less an issue of weight and more an issues of style. If you rely on your weight to power your skis through (possibly) sloppy turns, then a beefier ski is called for, this is a fine style..look at Bode Miller. If you rely on balance and finesse, then a salomon ski with quickness and precesion is better..and yes, this is possible for bigger guys.
 
Well, skiing a stiffer ski in general is harder. I'm at the point where I can carve switch down blues pretty well, but I'm still shaky.
 
You should get the Karmas definitely because theyre a stiffer better all mountain ski, including park. Not to mention the foils being extremely mainstream.
 
I like your last point about not being mainstream. The worst thing in the world is to see some gaper from New Jersey demoing your skis that you spent a lot of money and time picking out. Getting something like the Karmas well definitely prevent that from happening as much.
 
why don't you start a new thread instead of trying to thread jack this one with your lameass questions.

first of all, i dion't s4ee how its harder to ski switch with a stiff ski, considering that i ski switch with a 2001 mad trix at 181 cm at only 155 pounds. perhaps you should learn how to carve going forwards before you tackle the backwards skiing thing.

and bumps? we aren;'t talking parabolic racing ski's here. trhey will allow some flexibilityu.l
 
Well, maybe the first part, but I agree with what he said about carving switch, it's the same thing forwards and backwards for the most part, weighting is the only real adjustment, and they aren't designed as bump skis...either of them, but they are going to be of comparable performance in the bumps.
 
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