Flex Comparison - Last question, Rossi Roc

Kogu

Kogu

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I'm looking for someone familiar with 2 skis, the Roc and the SFB.

Long story: I rode Rossignol Axiums (Rocs I was told are nearly identical but more well known) for the last 4 years and they didn't do what I wanted how I wanted them to basically. They were 60-something underfoot and were mounted at -4 and yes I skied in pow and park with them, I know, there's a reason I want new skis. I was told by my instructor/shop friends that they're noodles with bindings on top.. I've heard the same about the SFB. Not AS noodly as the EP Pro or even Lizzies but they still have a "soft flex". I want to know how they stack up.

Sparknotes: I want to know the difference in flex between the SFB and the Roc. They're both "soft" I guess, which is softER? My Axiums (aka Rocs, I guess) sucked in pow, crud, and park. Carving was their element. Looking for something else.

Insurance: Yes, I know they're both soft, I just want to know which is SOFTER/HARDER.

Thanks a lot all, +k for detailed/1st hand responses. This is my LAST concern before I order them for next season. Doesn't look like I'll get to demo =/
 
if i remember correct you are getting next years sfb's which, as you know are 15% stiffer. i think the sfb's are stiffer, how much more, i dont know. hope this helps
 
You are correct in that I'm getting next year's SFB.

However if I'm correct, sorry if I'm not, it's the EP Pros that are being stiffened by 15% next year.

The only change to the best of my knowledge to the SFB next year is a rocker. Supposedly about the same as this year's Kung Fujas.

Heard the measurement of 27.5 cm x 15mm which I had thought was a lot but I guess they're changing how rocker is measured next year too? The person I talked to that rode them and wrote a review on them said it looked very much the same to his Kung Fujas as far as rocker goes.
 
you are right i am sorry but the stiffness in the sfbs are fine. especially if you liked the flex on your older skis. as far as i know you should be fine. if i were you i would wait till you get a more detailed view.

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Ok first of all its not really comparable your axiums are carving skis, the flex pattern is completely different to a twin tip ski. Although the axiums are a soft ski the flex underfoot and in the tail is going to be a lot stiffer/damp. Whereas the Bacons are going to be more uniform flex but still soft in comparison.

Honestly if your going from carving skis to twin tips I would not recommend going to Bacons, yes you might want to do every thing with your one pair of skis but I would go with a more all mountain/wider park ski option, 95ish underfoot etc as its going to be a huge difference going from carving skis.

Chronic Kryptos, KFs, ARVs or just normal all mountain park skis are going to be fine and are going to be a lot more user friendly to begin with. Its not like you cant ski pow on normal skis, yet there going to be more usable 90% of the time.

The bacons are capable of doing all that but I think you would get more out of another ski and buy something more pow specific like bacons when needed.

Thats my two cents
 
True, I suppose I hadn't considered the fact that the Bacon's have a symmetrical flex whereas the Axiums do not. I haven't gotten the chance to ski a symmetrically soft ski.

Out of curiosity though, what aspects of the skiing would change? I know fat skis require a little more edge work and their slower but what other than that would be changed? I actually was forced into a slightly aft position in my skiing because the ski was short so I used the stiffer tail. Wouldn't a symmetric flex make me more centered? Anyway I guess just leave it vague, what would change?
 
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