Flat spin is not the same as rodeo. You go inverted in a rodeo, you do not in a flat spin.
To the OP, to do a flatspin on the tramp, instead of leaning back when you do it, try and bring you feet up and around in front of you. Don't let your feet go above your head. It's really hard to explain.
i, along with many others, was under the impression that they were pretty much the same thing, but that kids liked to throw in a japan grab and call them flatspins. i don't think the difference between flats and rodeos is noticable or significant, but i could be wrong.
I huck them with a mentality of just going sideways, and i never actually do go just sideways, I always end up doing the flatspin, unless I focus on an object and rotate my body from that axis, then I go straight sideways.
when do u guys finally realise, that a rodeo is not a flat? ...please watch joss team canada 2010 edit:
can't emb at this computer:
around 5:44 - 5:55 tj is showing good examples of a flatspin! and i hope u realize that a rodeo is something different! (or justin at 2:33)
and to those guys who think a kangarou flip is a double flat watch the same edit (team canada) at 6:33, justin is doing a doulbe flatspin, and this is not a kangflip!
THIS IS THE WAY I SEE IT.....maybe i'm wrong...but then proof it with a vid example!
I've tried teaching so many people how to flat on tramps... its really hard to explain. my best advice is to just visualize your feet going diagonally up, like a rodeo, and then rotating flat for the remainder of the rotation. really just visualize it before you try it.
umm on trampoline its hard to explain but on skis if im doing a rodeo i do it alot more like a lincoln loop cuase that puts me upsidown but if i want to do a flat i do the same sort of motion but i dont really pop, i just sort of fall to the side.
super old picture but i think the fist 2 frames show what im talking about
no, a flat 3 follows the same rules as any other flatspin. once your feet are higher in the air than your head, it becomes a rodeo. andy mahre is one of the only people I can remember seeing do a true flat 3, over his back the whole way (watch idea). not like this crooked backflip japan everyone is doing these days. that's a rodeo 3, because it's set like a 360 and a backflip in one (not a "back-full") more like a cork 3 but more flipped.
when people say inverted is when your feet are over your head means that they are directly over your head and you are upside down in the air, like when you are half way through a backflip
It's actually a pretty easy trick if you can already rodeo. People like T-Wall and TJ Schiller do them well because they make the two tricks look different. Some people do the exact same trick and just don't go inverted, which in my opinion is pretty lame.
I started trying flats the way T-Wall does them and I think they look better and are way more fun and comfortable. Try taking of similar to a rodeo, but think about looking around your leading shoulder as long as possible to prevent rolling onto your back. That's what helped me.