First cork to learn

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Just curious on what people think is the first type of cork to learn is? Obviously cork 3 is the smallest rotation, but i've heard cork 5's are easier. Looking for advice. Thanks!
 
IMO, I would say cork 7. Cork 3 and 5 are pretty different rotations compared to the 7. I have done cork 7s but to this day have not been able to wrap my head around a proper 3/5 axis. Not to mention, a cork 7 is much easier to replicate on a trampoline compared to the cork 3 and 5, which I think is the main reason I've had a harder time figuring them out. That said, trying a cork 7 on a trampoline will help you get a feel for what your body is doing in the air.

That's just my honest opinion, but for some it may be different. If you wanna go for 3s and 5s I would start by carving into a normal 360 or 540 and dropping your shoulder just a little to get slightly corked, then add on as you get more comfortable.
 
That makes a lot of sense man! I honestly always forget you can do cork 7s, because I always tend to think of dub cork 7s. But definitely something to think about during the season and my next trampoline visit!
 
Has anyone ever learned Bio spin first? I can front flip, but not backflip... i think id feel more comfortable going off axis forwards first
 
topic:ZenyattaKick said:
Just curious on what people think is the first type of cork to learn is? Obviously cork 3 is the smallest rotation, but i've heard cork 5's are easier. Looking for advice. Thanks!
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What [tag=229477]@Pac2[/tag] said, 7 was def the easiest cork axis rotation to learn, then 5, then 3, imo. You can whip a 7 on a tramp, and then start figuring out the rest and how to make it bigger, but 3 and 5 are “floatier” and a little funkier to figure out.

14577576:KilaTsunami said:
Has anyone ever learned Bio spin first? I can front flip, but not backflip... i think id feel more comfortable going off axis forwards first
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I think sw cork 5 prob the easiest off-axis trick on tramp, and snow as well if your sw takeoffs/spins are good. That forward bio axis looks so much more g though
 
14577275:Pac2 said:
IMO, I would say cork 7. Cork 3 and 5 are pretty different rotations compared to the 7. I have done cork 7s but to this day have not been able to wrap my head around a proper 3/5 axis. Not to mention, a cork 7 is much easier to replicate on a trampoline compared to the cork 3 and 5, which I think is the main reason I've had a harder time figuring them out. That said, trying a cork 7 on a trampoline will help you get a feel for what your body is doing in the air.

That's just my honest opinion, but for some it may be different. If you wanna go for 3s and 5s I would start by carving into a normal 360 or 540 and dropping your shoulder just a little to get slightly corked, then add on as you get more comfortable.
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This. I’m the same way, but you’ve explained it better than I ever could.

14577579:ZenyattaKick said:
I feel like then a misty 5 would be a good start. Yeah I’ve never thrown a bio but your logic makes sense to me lol.
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And this is why the misty 5 was the 1st and pretty much only inverted / off axis trick I ever comfortable with. It’s easy. Some were over flippy, some were true misty, some were quite flat but usually didn’t land well at all. It’s an axis / rotation that can be tweaked in different directions very easily, and from my experience is a very safe trick. The biggest crashes were casual.

and it’s another easy trampoline trick to replicate / work on
 
14577586:Lemuel said:
This. I’m the same way, but you’ve explained it better than I ever could.

And this is why the misty 5 was the 1st and pretty much only inverted / off axis trick I ever comfortable with. It’s easy. Some were over flippy, some were true misty, some were quite flat but usually didn’t land well at all. It’s an axis / rotation that can be tweaked in different directions very easily, and from my experience is a very safe trick. The biggest crashes were casual.

and it’s another easy trampoline trick to replicate / work on
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Convincing me to try a misty 5
 
14577584:Yukon_Cornelius said:
What [tag=229477]@Pac2[/tag] said, 7 was def the easiest cork axis rotation to learn, then 5, then 3, imo. You can whip a 7 on a tramp, and then start figuring out the rest and how to make it bigger, but 3 and 5 are “floatier” and a little funkier to figure out.

I think sw cork 5 prob the easiest off-axis trick on tramp, and snow as well if your sw takeoffs/spins are good. That forward bio axis looks so much more g though
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Appreciate the help brother, makes a lot of sense. Hoping to get to the tramp park soon and then bring it to snow soon!
 
14577590:Mr.Whatsittoya said:
Convincing me to try a misty 5
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If you’ve got access to a trampoline, just practice big slow misty 5’s. Doing that is a similar feeling to being on snow. If you’re good with air awareness, focus on the center of rotation and play around with it. That’ll prep you for the weight of your skis / boots / bindings.
 
14577584:Yukon_Cornelius said:
What [tag=229477]@Pac2[/tag] said, 7 was def the easiest cork axis rotation to learn, then 5, then 3, imo. You can whip a 7 on a tramp, and then start figuring out the rest and how to make it bigger, but 3 and 5 are “floatier” and a little funkier to figure out.

I think sw cork 5 prob the easiest off-axis trick on tramp, and snow as well if your sw takeoffs/spins are good. That forward bio axis looks so much more g though
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I mean on snow not tramp. I can cork 5/7 and backie perfectly on tramp, I don’t think it translates as much as we’d like it to.. I’m just thinking of combining my fronty and my 540 would probably be more comfortable
 
I found the opposite to above, cork 3 was easiest to learn, and easy to overrotate to a 5. I can't wrap my head around a cork 7 but I also never used a trampoline or water ramp or anything. I find the 3 is chill because you can learn the feeling in the air by doing a lazy boy/ hand drag 3 which comes around very naturally. It also just feels kind of like the continuation of a turn when you carve off the jump, drop your shoulder and grab safety or japan.
 
I learned cork 7 first cus its easy to learn on tramp and off bridges. I only recently have been learning cork 3 and 5 on skis because i never could wrap my head around 5 and 3 on tramp. But using your skis to carve off the lip to cork 3 and overrotate into 5 has been easier than I thought and so much fun.
 
14578013:ReturnToMonkey said:
I learned cork 7 first cus its easy to learn on tramp and off bridges. I only recently have been learning cork 3 and 5 on skis because i never could wrap my head around 5 and 3 on tramp. But using your skis to carve off the lip to cork 3 and overrotate into 5 has been easier than I thought and so much fun.
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how do you cork 7 on trampoline? I watched a vid and it said to set backwards with your hand going out, but i cant get it at all.
 
14604874:yaskata said:
how do you cork 7 on trampoline? I watched a vid and it said to set backwards with your hand going out, but i cant get it at all.
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Just gotta try a lot. It feels super unnatural, the hardest part is pushing through your body's response and dialing in the right amount of pop and spin. It'll probably take lots of tries but you'll get it sooner or later
 
14577576:KilaTsunami said:
Has anyone ever learned Bio spin first? I can front flip, but not backflip... i think id feel more comfortable going off axis forwards first
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i caught an edge once and did bio 3 but idk if that counts
 
I was finally hitting jumps on the last day of the season and throwing big 3s with a kicked out safety grab. Felt like i was getting closer and closer to ducking into cork 3 but didnt try long enough. has me motivated to jump more next season
 
14577576:KilaTsunami said:
Has anyone ever learned Bio spin first? I can front flip, but not backflip... i think id feel more comfortable going off axis forwards first
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I learned Bio before cork by accidentally doing them when trying to rodeo lol. They aren't too hard but if you bio pretty flat they get very blind towards the end of the trick
 
[tag=105718]@Trifes[/tag] has a really good cork 5 tutorial on YouTube, not saying that should be your first but I would keep it in mind. I absolutely cannot cork 5 but I imagine if I was good the tutorial would have helped me. it was entertaining at least.
 
14604993:ZenyattaKick said:
Wait Rodeos are back sets similar to flat 3s how tf did u manage that lol, I could see it trying a misty.
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rodeo blends into bio sometimes. They're actually a really similar set and more spinny rodeo is only a little back from neutral
 
think of cork 3/5 as completely unrelated tricks to cork 7. the set is completely different, it feels completely different, just overall different tricks. I would also argue that cork 3/5 is harder than cork 7 but I may be biased bc I still cannot do them shits excerpt for one singular time almost by accident. I would choose between something like a rodeo 5 or cork 7, still different axises but I would say they somewhat build off of each other as they are both backwards set, hip/chest based pop rotations.
 
14605024:ZenyattaKick said:
But I’m confused because bios are forward sets and rodeos are backwards sets how do you even manage that man?
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You’ll understand once you can do both, they’re very similar tricks.
 
14605024:ZenyattaKick said:
But I’m confused because bios are forward sets and rodeos are backwards sets how do you even manage that man?
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I feel like if you going for a rodeo 7 or a flatspin 7 and throw your outer arm more towards your feet than staying really flat you get a bio ....

Btw I agree cork 7 is first one to try.

I couldn't do that proprlely on trampoline before on skis because i was tucking to early and ended up weird and not so smooth even still not fully inverted.

Then tried first time on skis 5 years ago in a kicker and the shape of the kicker really helped me to get the righ feel.

Insted, my cork 3s are not always enough corked. Ski points the ground but I am tucking a lor a to get that.

My Cork 5s are just over rotaded cork 3s that i save with a final 180..
 
Trampolines are the worst places to get a feeling for a trick. Gives ya false sense of realism. Remember on skis, you are travelling forward and a changing upwards incline. Trampolines are just really… really fun.

I learned a cork 5 before the 7. Cork 5 is an akward end to a nice fly. Cork 7 is far more comitting. You can glide a 5, but gotta go harder on the 7.

I learned a flatspin 3, then rodeo 5. Both tricks are very similar.
 
do you have any tips for feeling freaked out when thinking abt the trick on skis? Like i dont fall often and just barely save sometimes but i dont really fall. I also can 7 and backflip on ground, i hit pretty big cliffs and have no problem straight airing a pro line. But when i have to rotate on bigger jumps i feel scared. Feel like i made myself think spinning and flipping is too hard. I can do 360 on a small jump and backflip too somehow. If you have any tips for mentally just not thinking skiing is a big deal, please share. Cuz i feel like i like skiing so much i feel like its hard to progress even though its not. And i am an experienced skier, what im talking abt are just tricks.

14605275:freestyler540 said:
Trampolines are the worst places to get a feeling for a trick. Gives ya false sense of realism. Remember on skis, you are travelling forward and a changing upwards incline. Trampolines are just really… really fun.

I learned a cork 5 before the 7. Cork 5 is an akward end to a nice fly. Cork 7 is far more comitting. You can glide a 5, but gotta go harder on the 7.

I learned a flatspin 3, then rodeo 5. Both tricks are very similar.
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14605287:yaskata said:
do you have any tips for feeling freaked out when thinking abt the trick on skis? Like i dont fall often and just barely save sometimes but i dont really fall. I also can 7 and backflip on ground, i hit pretty big cliffs and have no problem straight airing a pro line. But when i have to rotate on bigger jumps i feel scared. Feel like i made myself think spinning and flipping is too hard. I can do 360 on a small jump and backflip too somehow. If you have any tips for mentally just not thinking skiing is a big deal, please share. Cuz i feel like i like skiing so much i feel like its hard to progress even though its not. And i am an experienced skier, what im talking abt are just tricks.
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Best advice is do good visualization leading to the first attempt. Imagine doing the trick and imagine what does is look like in first person. Picture the take off and imagine the whole thing like it was happening. When everything falls into place in your mind, it will work in real life.

Second advice is turn fear into awareness. Being afraid and spooked is when you will fuck up. Remember when you took a gnarly crash and everything slowed right down? Well, its the same idea; you are using adrenaline to help focus and follow through your trick. Its not fear, its self awareness! You can use the adrenaline rush to help slow down life in your mind so your actions are more precise on take off. I also take a few deep breaths before calling my drop in.
 
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