Film (Analog) Photography Thread

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Might as well be time to have a dedicated thread on this. Call it a consolidation if you will (or at least another thread to chat about our artz)

Ask film related questions... Post film related discussion topics... Get stoked on real photography with real cameras with real reels of real film...
 
Whats a good camera to pick up?

Ive been playing around with an old camera that I found in my house but its dysfunctional unfortunately. For some reason it wont expose (probably not the right word...) the negatives at all.
 
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or get the fuck out
 
If you're used to just shooting with digital P&S or SLRs, I think you'd probably have the most fun just getting an old TLR. A camera like that will make you think a lot differently about how you're shooting, and you'll get some really nice images out of a relatively inexpensive camera.

Another option I'd recommend for anyone who hasn't tried it, is to build a pinhole! That will force you to learn quite a bit about the most basic aspects of optics and how film works, and the images you get from one can be really interesting.

However, if you're looking more toward a film SLR to keep around while you're shooting skiing or whatever, I know very little about those--but quite a few other people on the site do.
 
About time this thread was created.

I just got accepted to Cargo Collective. I don't really know if that means anything, but they make it sound like its a big deal.

I quickly threw together some shots I liked. Incidentally, all shots are on film:

http://cargocollective.com/tijmendal

Check it out if you like. I really like the site.

Also: bad news, I'm down to my last 60 rolls of Tri-X *sob-sob*
 
Nice, was about to post this in the unthreadworthy thread.

I'd like to hear from people who process b&w at home. Mainly wondering what the costs are like for equipment and chemicals. Also, do most people just scan negatives then upload them, or do some of you actually make prints too?
 
$100 for everything you need to dev b&w at home, another $30 for color neg, don't do e-6 without a jobo or something, too temp dependent to do in your sink.
 
I thought C-41 needed good temperature control as well?

As I type that, I've just had an idea for a cheap (~$300), rudimental, relatively precise temperature controlled water bath. Too bad I don't have the facilities to build it here at university.

 
Pretty much spot on...

...but if you don't have a thrift shop near you, here are some affordable recommendations from Dingosean's Den of Dirt-cheapness

1. The Minolta SRT series

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Minolta made a bazillion of these, and they are made like tanks. Old, manual focus SLRs. Came in black and chrome. I have one in both colours because they're so bloody cheap. (I picked up the two of them for probably 30 or 40 bucks in an Ebay purchase spree) The lenses are very high quality, and can be had for very affordable prices via ebay/craigslist/whatever. It's extremely easy and affordable enough to build a whole Minolta system for well under 100$ (If you go with a 28, a 50, and a 135mm, especially) Minolta manual focus systems are affordable as hell - in general - so you might as well just pick one up anyways and stop being lame.

2. Pentax Spotmatic

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These are the direct predecessors to the K1000 (which many people consider the 'ultimate' camera for learning on), but are far less expensive with virtually the same functionality and availability. The body of the camera is usually a lot cheaper (K1000's can run you up to 100 bucks! screw that!) - even though it's almost entirely the same thing, and because it uses the M42 screwmount (which is easily, and cheaply adapted to both Canon and Panasonic/Olympus etc) you can build a massive vintage glass collection that can be used across different platforms. (The M42 mount was even more widely used than the Pentax K-mount, so dozens upon dozens of Soviet and Japanese lens designs came out using this system) Slightly more expensive than Minolta, but pretty excellent in the long-run. I recommend the Spotmatic F model, since it's basically the K1000, but you can also branch out here, and find other M42 system bodies made by the likes of Zenit, Praktica and Chinon for very cheap.

3. Canon AE-1

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This is the camera that put Canon on the map, and chances are pretty high your dad had one back when he dressed like a Scooby Doo character. They sold a zillion of these, and for the most part, they still work flawlessly today. They take one, very long lasting, and relatively easy to find 6V battery, and offer shutter-priority auto exposure, as well as full-time manual mode. The viewfinder is big, the body is smaller and lighter, and has all the things you need. They use the Canon FD - mount, so you can't use your new lenses, there's no backwards compatibility there - however, because of that, FD glass is, like Minolta, incredibly affordable. You can pick up a used AE-1 with a 50mm f1.8 for around 30 bucks on Ebay, or thrift stores. A 28 and a 100 or 135 will run you another 50-70 or so. (if you want to get crazy, a 55 f1.2 can be had for under 200 bucks!)

4. Canon EOS Elan 7/Nikon F80(N80)

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Already have a slew of AF lenses for Canon or Nikon? Don't really want to go and build a whole new system just for the sake of it? Want to be able to shoot film alongside your digital rig, and not bring around a whole bunch more? Well here's a hint, your lenses were originally made for film cameras.

If you have even one or two EF (not EF-S) mount lenses for your Canon, you are in luck, because they'll work on any Canon dating back to 1987 when they went full-autofocus. Slap a 50mm f1.8 on a very excellent 40$ Elan 7, and you might as well be shooting a 5Dmk3.

Same goes for Nikon, if you pick up something like a 40$ F80/N80, which came out in 2000 and is compatible with all Nikon's autofocus lenses from 1986-now, you won't have any problems shooting the lenses you've splurged on. (note - most DX lenses will vignette heavily on the 'full frame' 35mm film plane (you can basically get away with the 35 f1.8 DX at higher apertures). pick up an insanely affordable 50 f1.8D, and have at it!)

5. Minolta Hi-Matic E

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Looking for a high-quality compact travel camera that won't break the bank? Not really interested in paying a ton for a whole lens system, and content with just one good one? Want a Leica, or other rangefinder, but not passionate enough about film to drop a grand or more? this could be perfect for you. They can be picked up for 30-40 bucks, are made of solid wrought iron steel (so, kinda heavy for their size, but also not plastic) have an awesome, and very versatile 40mm f1.7 lens on them, give all-time programed autoexposure - or 'P' mode (so no worries about manual settings, just go out there, shoot, and focus on composition!) and best yet, they ARE a rangefinder! you can at least get into the comfort zone of shooting with a rangefinder, and focusing with one - so when you bump up to a Leica or a Canon 7 or whatever, you're going to feel right at home. Throw one of these in any bag you've got, and forget about it until you have a shot in mind.

 
Dont waste money on an aquarium heater fpr c41, you can 100% do that with just tap water, I did for a year in my sink its totaly fine
 
Temperature control is easy, especially if you use SCIENCE

Water generally holds heat well, it's got a high heat capacity. That being said, heat a large-ish bath of it to the right temperature as well as your chemicals. Then you can just let them sit in that as you go, assuming your dev tanks are appropriate for heat transfer. Even better would be to cover the water where you don't need to put something, so it doesn't lose all it's heat to the air.

Also if you're doing plastic reels, these tend to be awesome. Never have problems with this one, or any with the large flanges.

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Also HC110 is the shit. I use it as a one time deal, ensuring fresh chems each time. There's dilution charts around, and I believe I was adding something on the order of 17.5ml per time doing film. There's a lot in the bottle, so it will last a while.

I have a roll of portra to finish that's been in one of my cameras since hurricane sandy. My favorite lens got crushed and I lost all motivation to finish it.
 
There's almost no info in this thread. Like, at all... Unthreadworthy thread is one big film circlejirk though.

 
If you're really getting into analogue photography, consider mid-format.Prices are dropping over the entire line. Got this for almost no money at all:

Pentax 67 II with a 90 mm and a 45 mm lens

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The beast weighs in at 2.7 lbs (1750 g). Here next to the body of my 5D Mk II.

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It's one of the craziest cameras for landscape photography + often used by fashion photographers.

With only 20 exposures per roll of film, expect a whole different approach to your pictures.

:: hkn ::
 
I bought a k1000 and 50mm for 30 bucks off kijiji. I shot a few rolls of cheap Kodak 400 film and they seem to be out of focus and slight underexposed. Any hints on improving my photos? I've never used split screen manual focusing before
 
I almost always overexpose my negative film 1/2 a stop. You can get a nice print out of overexposed film, but underexposed always look terrible.
 
my new yashica came in today and my GF sent me a picture of the quiver (i need to work with her a little on framing)

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Here is my quiverView attachment 689965

I use the OM-1 for B+W and it will be my school camera in several months. The ME is my color camera (when shot in conjunction with the OM) and my walk around camera, I really like being able to use AE for walking around.

Both of these will be overshadowed (pun intended) by the beast that is the Mamiya RZ67 that was delivered today. I will still probably use the ME as my walk around camera though.

I am also planning on getting a Plustek 35mm scanner pretty soon and an Epson v600 when my RZ kit is complete.
 
Other than the fact that it weighs as much as a neutron star...

Honestly, I have a V-series with the Planar and the 150mm Sonnar, and I only take it out occasionally. It's just too much of a HASSEL lugging a big camera like that all the time.
 
I know haha, can't really be bothered to...

Mind sharing your Cargo? I haven't really delved into it, but I think it's really easy to share/follow each other and what not, right?

 
Dude, 'almost no money'? That was 700$+ still. You can get into 135 for 25$ easily.

And if you want medium format, there's no way you can beat a good TLR like a Rolleicord V or Yashica Mat 124, which run for 200$. Unless you want to shoot portraits with some smooth bokeh.
 
Quadruple post, fuck yeah!

Lawrence, teach me how to do multiple quotes in a single thread...

My camera shelf I just build two days ago; it's full already.

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From left to right:

- Black OM-2SP with Winder

- 3x OM-1

- 6x9 Folder Voigtlander Bessa

- Mamiya 645 1000s

- Canon 7 Rangefinder with 35mm f/2.8

- Beautyflex

- Rolleicord Va

- Olympus Xa, 2x Olympus Xa2

Those are some of the camera's I like shooting with the most. I have a couple others, but I don't use those a lot/at all, including my DSLR. I did shoot this pic with my DSLR, but that's probably the first time I picked it up in 2 months.

Lenses are all stowed away in other places. I have way too many of those things...

The most important/my favorite/awesomest camera I have isn't pictured, because it's pretty much always with me as of late. Either in my backpack or in my jacket pocket: the Konica Hexar AF (in black). Absolutely amazing camera and probably one of the best deals around. I bought mine in good condition for 125€. Not my photo, but this is what it looks like in all its awesomeness.

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It takes years of practise under Liam Neeson in the monastery home to the League of Shadows, high up in the Tibetan mountains.Quoting loganimlach$:

my new yashica came in today and my GF sent me a picture of the quiver

Isn't she lovely, take good care of her and your gf. :)

Quoting JakeSmith:

Here is my quiver

Learn to Tri-X.

Quoting DingoSean$:

My camera wall.

Either your shelfs are crooked or that's some mad distortion.

Quoting DingoSean$:

It's just too much of a HASSEL lugging a big camera like that all the time.

Don't Hassel the Blad.

Quoting TijmenDal$:

My camera shelf I just build two days ago

Reppin' that Ikea LACK shelf I see. And damn do you love XA's or what?

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A small part of my collection that looks the coolest. (Nobody wants to see a tidal wave of Minolta's) in front of my excess of books that no longer fit in my bookcase in a drastic attempt to look cultured and interesting.

Processed in VSCO just for Balto:

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Been interested in picking up film but I have a couple quick questions.

Cost of developing film?

Should I get my film printed where it gets developed or just get it on cd?

I really enjoy shooting landscape and that's what I mainly focus on, 50mm still the best lens to go with?

Sorry for the noob questions
 
1. If it's colour print film, about 2$ a roll at rite aid/costco.

If it's black and white, save yourself time and money and do it yourself. Nothing beats getting high off fixer and being the first person to see your negatives as they come out of the Devo tank. 80-100$ gets you everything you'd need to develop with. I've saved money in the past by not owning a changing bag (find a really dark room with no windows. A closet works - just throw a towel over the base of the door) and doing a 2-chemical development (developer and rapid fixer, no stop bath).

2. Depends on the place you're taking it to. I rarely get prints, and instead just take negatives back to scan myself. That said, if you don't have access to a scanner, or if they have a really good reputation for their prints/scans, go for it.

3. 50mm is fine, but consider a 24mm or a 28mm lens, as they'll give you a broader field of view with which to work with and allow you to get closer. I still shoot much of my landscapes on a 35 or 50, however.

4. That's part of why I made this thread, is for the n00b questions we all have.
 
i can't wait to watch this thread, I'm just starting to get into film. i'm about to buy a Fed 3 with an industar 61 l/d lens on ebay, and i'm really excited to take some pictures with it. i'll be going to toronto in april and I'm hoping to get some good stuff with it.
 
Yes I am. I'm broke and it's all I could afford... And they're somewhat decent looking so.

And yes, XA's are pretty awesome, but the OM is more awesome. That's why I have more of those.

And teach me how to do multi quotes!
 
A bit of a shit picture since it's late and I'm tired and I do not have all my Minolta's here.

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Back to front:

X-300

X-300

X-700

7000

7000i

7000i

7000i

5000i
 
The last time I checked, they are around $400 to $500. Sad, because I really want one.

So which to you like better as a carry around camera, XA or Hexar?
 
I don't know what it is with US prices for the Hexar, but they're a lot more expensive in the US than they are in Europe.

I like the Hexar Af better. Size is important to me, and I can carry the Hexar in my jacket pocket or backpack (either of which I have always with me). If that wouldn't have been the case, an XA is just fine. Those are really great camera's too and they're quite a bit smaller too. Now that it's getting hotter and I'll be wearing my jacket less-and-less I will probably start using an XA again.
 
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