Ethanol vehicles pose significant health risk, Stanford study says.

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Stanford Report, April 18, 2007

Ethanol vehicles pose significant risk to health, new study finds

BY MARK SHWARTZ

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// Mark Z. Jacobson Los Angeles smog

Using ethanol-based fuel instead of gasoline would likely increase the ozone-related death rate in Los Angeles by 9 percent in 2020, according to a new study by atmospheric scientist Mark Jacobson.

Ethanol is widely touted as an eco-friendly, clean-burning fuel. But if every vehicle in the United States ran on fuel made primarily from ethanol instead of pure gasoline, the number of respiratory-related deaths and hospitalizations likely would increase, according to a new study by Stanford University atmospheric scientist Mark Z. Jacobson. His findings are published in the April 18 online edition of the journal Environmental Science & Technology (ES&T).

"Ethanol is being promoted as a clean and renewable fuel that will reduce global warming and air pollution," said Jacobson, associate professor of civil and environmental engineering. "But our results show that a high blend of ethanol poses an equal or greater risk to public health than gasoline, which already causes significant health damage."

Gasoline vs. ethanol

For the study, Jacobson used a sophisticated computer model to simulate air quality in the year 2020, when ethanol-fueled vehicles are expected to be widely available in the United States.

"The chemicals that come out of a tailpipe are affected by a variety of factors, including chemical reactions, temperatures, sunlight, clouds, wind and precipitation," he explained. "In addition, overall health effects depend on exposure to these airborne chemicals, which varies from region to region. Ours is the first ethanol study that takes into account population distribution and the complex environmental interactions."

In the experiment, Jacobson ran a series of computer tests simulating atmospheric conditions throughout the United States in 2020, with a special focus on Los Angeles. "Since Los Angeles has historically been the most polluted airshed in the U.S., the testbed for nearly all U.S. air pollution regulation and home to about 6 percent of the U.S. population, it is also ideal for a more detailed study," he wrote.

Jacobson programmed the computer to run air quality simulations comparing two future scenarios:

# A vehicle fleet (that is, all cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc., in the United States) fueled by gasoline, versus

# A fleet powered by E85, a popular blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.

Deaths and hospitalizations

The results of the computer simulations were striking.

"We found that E85 vehicles reduce atmospheric levels of two carcinogens, benzene and butadiene, but increase two others—formaldehyde and acetaldehyde," Jacobson said. "As a result, cancer rates for E85 are likely to be similar to those for gasoline. However, in some parts of the country, E85 significantly increased ozone, a prime ingredient of smog."

Inhaling ozone—even at low levels—can decrease lung capacity, inflame lung tissue, worsen asthma and impair the body's immune system, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. The World Health Organization estimates that 800,000 people die each year from ozone and other chemicals in smog.

"In our study, E85 increased ozone-related mortalities in the United States by about 200 deaths per year compared to gasoline, with about 120 of those deaths occurring in Los Angeles," Jacobson said. "These mortality rates represent an increase of about 4 percent in the U.S. and 9 percent in Los Angeles above the projected ozone-related death rates for gasoline-fueled vehicles in 2020."

The study showed that ozone increases in Los Angeles and the northeastern United States will be partially offset by decreases in the southeast. "However, we found that nationwide, E85 is likely to increase the annual number of asthma-related emergency room visits by 770 and the number of respiratory-related hospitalizations by 990," Jacobson said. "Los Angeles can expect 650 more hospitalizations in 2020, along with 1,200 additional asthma-related emergency visits."

The deleterious health effects of E85 will be the same, whether the ethanol is made from corn, switchgrass or other plant products, Jacobson noted. "Today, there is a lot of investment in ethanol," he said. "But we found that using E85 will cause at least as much health damage as gasoline, which already causes about 10,000 U.S. premature deaths annually from ozone and particulate matter. The question is, if we're not getting any health benefits, then why continue to promote ethanol and other biofuels?

"There are alternatives, such as battery-electric, plug-in-hybrid and hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles, whose energy can be derived from wind or solar power," he added. "These vehicles produce virtually no toxic emissions or greenhouse gases and cause very little disruption to the land—unlike ethanol made from corn or switchgrass, which will require millions of acres of farmland to mass-produce. It would seem prudent, therefore, to address climate, health and energy with technologies that have known benefits."

This ES&T study was partially supported by NASA.

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Well, crap, that ain't good.
 
no we wont. cause by the time we get to work we will be all sweaty and gross and the BO levels of offices would skyrocket
 
If you sweat alot, well then yes.

But you would kick up your endurance, & energy levels.

I have a friend who's scared of buses, doesn't want a car, and bikes around everywhere. He even rode a bike to the hospital when his friend was giving birth, and to this guy's wedding.

 
but think of those who sweat alot!

especially in LA. biking around in such a hot place is guarenteed to work up a sweat
 
Just because ONE scientist came to this conclusion doesn't mean it is right. Until it is researched some more, I will not start hating on ethanol, but leave it a possibility.
 
yea right. and the best fuel is bio diesel for sure you really cant beat it in any way, well i guess if you walk but thats it
 
or people could just decide to work near where they live. for hundreds of years people didn't feel the need to drive places, they got off their lazy asses and walked or rode a horse.
 
then the economy slows down, because people spend a better portion of their day getting to work rather than doing work.

secondly, ethanol as a whole is a tricky matter. the reason that it isn't taking off is because oil companies that add an ethanol sector to their company will be at the mercy of corn producing farmers which will ultimately put the power in their hands. the last thing these people want is a hick farmer driving around in a ferrari.

third, ethanol produced in southern countries will see a sharp rise in corn based products. this is bad because much of their eating habits incorporate some sort of corn based product. already the price of tortilla's raised substantially. but it isn't really much concern to us, because in the end we are used to exploiting developing countries for their resources at the expense of the quality of life for the inhabitants.

i would also like to see more studies done on this because in the end we don't know who funded this study and we don't know where their loyalties belong and what their agenda is. don't believe all the statistics you hear because there are actually people in this world who make it their job to present the statistics and facts in such a manner that it benefits them ie. spin doctors.

 
not too mention it is such a small molecule it can fit through almost anything and to top it all off it is highly explosive.
 
Well, it's like this for me:

Ethanol isn't as efficient as it should be for an alternative to gasoline. You need a lot of greenhouse gases to get the stuff. Not as much as you would have for gasoline, but still.

Now, if it doesn't actually reduce air pollution, nevermind greenhouse gases, then it shouldn't be used as an alternate energy source.

This is another hit on ethanol.
 
I think your half write. clean power plants are going to be the future using all renewable resources(wind +solar) then hybrid viechels. our houses on general ommit 2X the co2 then our cars and if we get rid of the co2 from producing energy that is a big step. And hybrids would cut co2 emmisions of cars in half wich makes even less co2. Also if you could plug in the hybrids you could might not use any gas for short trips.
 
wind is the absolute worst idea ever. what we need is solar for houses and other buildings and bio diesel. I have done several projects and i have researched all of these options. For solar energy if we cover 10% of new mexico's desert with solar pannels we will be able to power the entire nation.

And as far as fuels for cars biodiesel has the one of the lowest CO2 outputs of all the actual fuels electric and hydrogen cars are pointless. Hydrogen fuel cells are like having a nuke under your ass and if you crash they can be catistrophic. And electric cars lack the power to run veichles such as trucks. And with an electric car not only do you lack power but speed it takes alot of enegry to get and keep a car at speed and electric cars just dont compare to any of the other bio fueled cars
 
The earth is only "overpopulated" because people congregate in the same areas (mainly water ways), and the excess of consumption in must of the western world means that each person is using more than their share of anything, and not only a little bit.

I'm interested in knowing what you would propose to slow and then negate human growth, because from what we're seeing, it all leads to some inhumane or at least far from ideal conditions for people. You've got China with an excess of 30 000 000 men, without women, which causes serious social problems; then you've got France and Italy, who will have no one very soon to run even the basics of the economy in the country, and at least no one to pay for retirement (which can cause some serious problems... many people in retirement homes didn't have enough money to get AC during the heat wave... 14000 people died).

I mean, i get limiting population growth, but i don't see why potential collapse or degradation of society is a viable option for that. And it is rather inhumane, or at least morally questionable to accept natural disaster and calamity as a suitable means to an end... Well, i suppose they would prove justified if the problem were alleviated, but still.... It's essentially hoping for the death of millions of people, or hoping that no one gets kids, which would cause more problems in the long run... No kids to take the relay, then society generally degrades, not helping to improve environmental challenges as there is less power to change, less man power, innovation, an older and older population...
 
I was going to comment about ethanol, but Drew pretty much summed up my thoughts on it. Ethanol is a lame excuse for environmentally friendly gasoline alternatives, and always has been.

As for carrying capacity, I think Patty's figures are based from the Council of Rome meetings in the 1960's. Those numbers have been recalculated and readjusted, and current predictions now place our population 'top off' at around the year 2020, if trends continue. We are overpopulating the planet, yes. Limiting growth factors will be resources, like food, water, raw materials, etc, and pollution and industrialization will play major parts as well. Basically, what we can expect is that pollution levels, which lag behind population, will eventually get so high they effect food production, which will increase malnutrition and the death rate, causing a leveling off of growth and then an eventual decline. Pollution will get worse, lagging behind the fall in population and industrial products, and then begin to dissipate.

Problem is, we dont know what will happen then if that should occur. Humans are inventive creatures, and its quite possible we could devise ways to keep our populations going, even if we have to sacrifice irreplaceable parts of our environment to do so. We're not too good at this whole "planning for the future" thing as a species, and have more often than not made a mess of things. In short, I believe theres a chance humans may irreversibly damage our globe in order to stave off any population "die offs". (Die offs wouldnt really occur, as in people falling over and dying in the streets however, as it would mostly be manifested in low birth rates. However, its possible, even probable, that some areas (Africa and less developed countries) might suffer from high death rates from famine)

Its all wonderfully interesting and speculative, even more so when you consider some of the new diseases and prevalences of cancer and such in our populations. Go Environmental Health!
 
The use of ethanol as a fuel alternative isn't the result of environmental effots so much as agricultural ones... it's good for farmers, because the corn crop is the source. Imagine if corn was the next oil. Of course they want to promote it.
 
that's why we've got to start using hydrogen, compressed air, or electricity. our next president needs to be a no-bullshit man with no ties to the oil industry.
 
But the amount of corn needed to make the ethanol is ridiculous, never mind that it produces more pollution and nasty byproducts than gasoline refining.
 
its all smug, like the south park episode.

and damn, i wrote a paper for english on how ethanol was the new gas and would save our economy. no cookies for me
 
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