Uh, I don't know about how much snow there is up there right now, they are right below the bottom of the bridger lift if that gives you any idea. The bust factor is really low, we had a couple employees go right by us on snowmobiles and no one said a thing. If they aren't going to have the common sense to chain em up, they can't really complain when kids go hit them. Plus there is no liability because the land is owned by the forest service.