Dying breed of boxes

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I was watching some og 2000s edits and I’ve really noticed how many boxes there were, at almost over resort there was a crazy challenge box but nowadays the only challenge box I know is from henriks park. I always thought this was just skier getting better and not needing box’s anymore but are there more reasons?
 
I skied a challenge box at copper about a month ago. But yeah I usually see challenge rails far more often than boxzillas these days
 
boxes certainly have their uses but i think as a skier progresses and gets more comfortable, rails become preferred

at northstar, the beginner parks are filled with boxes but the bigger parks might only have a couple in total
 
14611559:snowfinder said:
Could be a liability thing too, seen the worst crashes on boxes.
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have seen boxes where the lexan totally lifted up and even screws that have backed out and can catch edges. definitely lots of opportunities to get sketchy
 
14611563:Farmville420 said:
Harder to maintain, I'm a box truther though I think they are way more practical for progressing than tubes
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always do the season's first few 270s onto boxes just to be safe. after that though, i'll take a silky smooth tube any day
 
wild mtn randomly got some og style boxes this year. a u box thats actually really fun and this massive rollercoaster box that doesnt work as well lol
 
14611561:bennwithtwons said:
have seen boxes where the lexan totally lifted up and even screws that have backed out and can catch edges. definitely lots of opportunities to get sketchy
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that's how i feel about them. less impressive than a rail but somehow sketchier sometimes. and more material/labor to make i would think

14611563:Farmville420 said:
Harder to maintain, I'm a box truther though I think they are way more practical for progressing than tubes
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i hear that, i used to be garbage at rails too
 
14611612:SofaKingSick said:
that's how i feel about them. less impressive than a rail but somehow sketchier sometimes. and more material/labor to make i would think

i hear that, i used to be garbage at rails too
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Tubes aren't rails lol, also not even what I meant. Boxes occur in the streets often, tubes dont. Way higher chance you see a ledge than a fat 2 foot diameter milly tube in the streets, therefore it's more practical
 
14611619:Farmville420 said:
Tubes aren't rails lol, also not even what I meant. Boxes occur in the streets often, tubes dont. Way higher chance you see a ledge than a fat 2 foot diameter milly tube in the streets, therefore it's more practical
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i was just talking shit for no reason but yeah you're right that boxes do actually resemble a common street feature, ledges, which is a good argument for their ubiquity
 
Ah big boxes are fun. Place near me used to have big box transfers.

Also whale tale used to be more common. Rail whale tail claimed bodies by the week now parks are more designed for people who just plan on doing side hits all day.
 
Boxes need to make a comeback. Loaf had some sick af box setups this spring like a huge up box and some other interesting ones
 
The MOAB (mother of all boxes)(aka 10 gallon box) shamelessly stolen from the one Mammoth had in the bdog resurrected edit

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The maintenance isn’t as bad if you just eat the upfront cost of using 1/2” plastic instead of 1/4”, then you can bolt the plastic on instead of screws and it doesn’t warp in the sun nearly as bad
 
14611610:Thegenericskier said:
this was the most legendary box of the south, now it stands as decoration for the mountain cause someone snapped their back on it

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I definitely remember some old Charlie Owens edits that featured that box. There are so many ways things that could go wrong on it lol.
 
14611647:a_burger said:
The MOAB (mother of all boxes)(aka 10 gallon box) shamelessly stolen from the one Mammoth had in the bdog resurrected edit

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The maintenance isn’t as bad if you just eat the upfront cost of using 1/2” plastic instead of 1/4”, then you can bolt the plastic on instead of screws and it doesn’t warp in the sun nearly as bad
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1/4" plastic is just a waste of everyone's time and money. That still makes them much more expensive and more difficult to make than rails which is a big reason they aren't as common anymore.

Plus, large tubes are more fun for just about all skill levels than boxes.

That box looks really fun though.
 
14611673:TOAST. said:
1/4" plastic is just a waste of everyone's time and money. That still makes them much more expensive and more difficult to make than rails which is a big reason they aren't as common anymore.

Plus, large tubes are more fun for just about all skill levels than boxes.

That box looks really fun though.
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IMO there are too many tubes now and it gets mad boring when every single feature is a big fat tube
 
I’d personally love to see more resorts putting in proper ledges made of concrete or pavers or something else of the sort. Would be a cool experience for someone learning how to hit more street spots or for street veterans to get down on and session on something gnarlier.
 
14611691:hi_vis360 said:
IMO there are too many tubes now and it gets mad boring when every single feature is a big fat tube
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I'm bad at skiing and getting old, I'm fine with it. But I am getting jaded on seeing tube clips in edits.
 
14611691:hi_vis360 said:
IMO there are too many tubes now and it gets mad boring when every single feature is a big fat tube
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Same here I tried to film tricks on handrails and square rails this year when I could. I was surprised at how much I liked wider square rails. Scary but fun to do surface swaps on
 
14611693:Ranchculture said:
I’d personally love to see more resorts putting in proper ledges made of concrete or pavers or something else of the sort. Would be a cool experience for someone learning how to hit more street spots or for street veterans to get down on and session on something gnarlier.
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Best idea I’ve heard in a while
 
14611693:Ranchculture said:
I’d personally love to see more resorts putting in proper ledges made of concrete or pavers or something else of the sort. Would be a cool experience for someone learning how to hit more street spots or for street veterans to get down on and session on something gnarlier.
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these tend to crack really easy and are really bad for bases/edges. We had one at one like 10 years ago and it was not that that fun, required a ton of wax to get to slide and even then almost nobody hit it.

Big boulder used to have a few that had steel angles on the corners with concrete in the middle and those were alright, but normal boxes just make more sense for resorts.
 
14611642:hi_vis360 said:
Boxes need to make a comeback. Loaf had some sick af box setups this spring like a huge up box and some other interesting ones
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That up box was sick but the plastic on top got all way from the sun. It was great to wall ride the sides though. the hockey stick rail next to it was more fun.
 
14611693:Ranchculture said:
I’d personally love to see more resorts putting in proper ledges made of concrete or pavers or something else of the sort. Would be a cool experience for someone learning how to hit more street spots or for street veterans to get down on and session on something gnarlier.
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I like where your head is at but concrete ledges thrash your skis so fucking hard, they’re so fun in the streets but if they were in parks I don’t think I could afford to hit them purely from a financial standpoint
 
14611853:hi_vis360 said:
I like where your head is at but concrete ledges thrash your skis so fucking hard, they’re so fun in the streets but if they were in parks I don’t think I could afford to hit them purely from a financial standpoint
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I’d love a tall box that you can ride on from the top of a knuckle and it leads to a 5-10 foot drop. I do agree that concrete would be weird to put in a park but if there were more ledge-style box features that would be nice.
 
14611733:TOAST. said:
these tend to crack really easy and are really bad for bases/edges. We had one at one like 10 years ago and it was not that that fun, required a ton of wax to get to slide and even then almost nobody hit it.

Big boulder used to have a few that had steel angles on the corners with concrete in the middle and those were alright, but normal boxes just make more sense for resorts.
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Man Big Boulder had it all ... smh i actually used to love that thing.
 
14611693:Ranchculture said:
I’d personally love to see more resorts putting in proper ledges made of concrete or pavers or something else of the sort. Would be a cool experience for someone learning how to hit more street spots or for street veterans to get down on and session on something gnarlier.
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Keystone has a few
 
My memory fails me but I’m 99% sure I was at App the day he won the Salomon jib Academy at App. That was a wild day. Good memories from younger me.

14611610:Thegenericskier said:
this was the most legendary box of the south, now it stands as decoration for the mountain cause someone snapped their back on it

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Boxes are also slowly sinking into the ground over time. Every year they get set in lower and lower by park crew.In 5 years they might be gone.
 
14612624:armchair_skier said:
Boxes are also slowly sinking into the ground over time. Every year they get set in lower and lower by park crew.In 5 years they might be gone.
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Fucking climate change.
 
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