thanks dude, my gonzaga education is doing my wrong in the spelling department. and when I say they lack substance Im not talking about the well known euro pros (wester, jon, pk, andreas, henrik etc), i was merely pointing out that lately it seems there are a ton of guys over there that seem the same to me (martin mischof, andri ambuhl, elias embujl, thomas doplads, fridtjof fredricsson, thomas hlawitschka, benedikt mayer, noclas vuignier etc.)