Don't do it Obama

arandomname

Active member
I've never done this, but if this happens, I will be pretty mad, actually. American government is going down the shitter, and I will lose any respect I ever had for Obama.

If Obama goes negative, he'll lose more than gain

Grand Rapids, Michigan (CNN) -- Earlier this week, Politico.com

published a story quoting anonymous sources said to be close to the

Obama re-election team. In it, the sources said the president's focus in the

2012 campaign will not be on his record but rather on attacking the presumed GOP

candidate, Mitt Romney.

"Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to

kill Romney," said a prominent Democratic strategist aligned with the White

House, Politico reported.

Not to dismiss the reporting done by Politico, but because the sources are

unidentified, it's hard to know how involved the individuals quoted are with the

Obama campaign and how much of what they said is actually true. Obama adviser

David Axelrod has since called the story "garbage" and said he would fire anyone trying to paint Romney as "weird" as part

of the strategy.

Still, the Romney campaign wasted little time using an unattributed quote

from the piece in a campaign ad, so true or not, the "kill Romney" strategy is

out there.

Opinion: Rick Perry headed to the White House?

Now aside from the fact Romney may not even be the GOP nominee -- and judging

by the excitement over Rick Perry's announcement, he's hardly a lock -- I don't

believe such a strategy is smart because it is not going to woo undecided

voters.

If anything, it's going to turn them off.

After all, Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton and John McCain in part by

appearing to be the least negative and the one most focused on issues.

To do an about-face in hopes of re-election would reek of the foul

politics-as-usual stench he promised to clear out if elected. We can certainly

debate whether he actually tried to do that before the reality of partisanship

hit him in the face. However, if he allows personal attacks to shape his

re-election bid, that debate is moot and his journey to the dark side

complete.

Now granted, employing such a strategy will not automatically cost President

Obama my vote or even the election. But it will certainly cost him a certain

measure of respect.

He proved himself to be a decent man during a 2008 campaign that was at times

ridiculous (Is he black enough?) and other times, nasty (Falsely saying he's a

Muslim!). I would like to see him be confident in his record and hard on his

opponent. But to resort to off-topic, personal attacks would simply be

hypocritical and desperate.

And it's hard to respect a desperate hypocrite.

Brazile: 4 things Obama could do

Coming into Obama's presidency, most supporters knew some core Democrat

principles would have to give way to Republican ones, which to me is fine

because no one party has all the answers anyway. And even though many of the

people who voted for him didn't always agree with his decisions as president,

Obama the man has always been liked by most Americans.

That all changes if he starts slinging mud.

But more importantly, what does it say about how Obama views his first term

if he chooses to run a campaign that seems to run away and not run on his

record? How could anyone not see that as a self-issued indictment of his own

performance or a validation of the GOP's assessment that his presidency has been

a failure? Any attempt to frame Romney as "weird" may be good for chuckles, but

it doesn't erase Obama's record in the White House.

Just as Romney touting his business background doesn't erase his lackluster

record in creating jobs while governor of Massachusetts or Texas' Rick Perry

blasting big government doesn't erase the fact he accepted more than $6 billion

in stimulus money to help balance his state's budget.

Sometimes you are who you are, so Obama, as well as the eventual GOP

candidate, might as well own what they've done because it's going to be brought

up anyway.

Seeing a bunch of campaign ads talking about Romney's Mormonism -- the way

the Swift Boaters questioned John Kerry's patriotism in 2004 or the push-polled

voters insinuated McCain fathered a black child out of wedlock during the 2000

primaries -- is not going to make people forget the country's 9.1 unemployment

rate.

At least not the people paying attention.

Besides, a person can only be president for eight years, but at 50, Obama

will have to look himself in the mirror for much, much longer. That's why it's

better for him to fight with honor, explaining to voters why he did what he did,

as opposed to scheming like a conniving weasel.

Should the Obama campaign ever resort to smearing Romney or Perry or whoever

the GOP candidate is, then to paraphrase the great philosophers Green Day, wake

me up when November ends.

I may be able to stomach Obama compromising his politics from time to time,

but I couldn't stand to watch him sacrifice his soul.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those

of LZ Granderson.
 
I've been disappointed in Obama so far. I really don't know what he can say to highlight his accomplishments (I mean, what would you consider his biggest accomplishment?). I'm sure the next election will be ugly.
 
mr obama just wants to be famous, and bask in his own glory of making history as the first black president, even tho he isnt even black
 
foreigners laugh at mr obama. they think he is a complete joke. one of the foremost economists in the world said that obama prostitutes himself, which is accurate
 
political shitstorm in 3.... 2... 1.... GOGOGOGO!!!! But shockingly the thread is incredibly agreeable so far

 
False. Obama is typically liked worldwide. International countries hardly care about our politics and a lot of countries are in a depression as well. America is laughed at, but appreciated because we help out so much with international crisis and disasters. You're very ignorant, and your posts show it.
 
He's already began slinging mud. In his speech about the downgrade he pointed fingers and blamed everyone but himself. He showed poor leadership and couldn't get Congress to step up and get the job done. He's honestly done nothing that stands out to me so far as good or awesome.
 
Meh, too early for Obama to really care.

The real fireworks for now are going to be for the republican nomination. Mitt prob stands the best chance as a moderate republican (which I respect), but at this point it could be anyone's game. I just hope the Tea Party doesn't get their way with the nomination... I'm talking about Bachmann.

Obama's just sitting on the sidelines right now continuing his job at the white house. Shit will get real next year.
 
I don't see how this is any different than every member of the tea party and half of global politicians strategy's for the last 50 years....? A democratic governor's first job is to get elected, from there on, it's actually governing.
 
I'm a moderate and Im voting for obama, all the republican candidates are literally insane. People always have talked shit about obama but can never back that up.

 
i actually like rick perry because he believes in less govt regulation and more in business, which is what our country was founded on in the first place and is exactly what our country needs right now
 
Yeah, but I don't think he was a good governor at all. One in four people in Texas do not have any health care at all, and right now, businesses can hardly thrive with this depression without government support. Not until this depression is gone and the stock market is up and running will businesses be able to survive on their own. I don't think we would have gotten out of the Great Depression in the 30s without FDR's government regulation.
 
The thing is that Texas is the bet state for a business. Businesses thrive in Texas because of the lack of regulation.
 
Obama is worse than Bush. Easily the worst president we have ever had. He has literally done nothing positive in 3 years.
 
Care to back that statement up?

Pretty bold and ridiculous to me. I would put the cost of the cheaper labor and abundantly cheap land as a reason for businesses thriving before "regulation".
 
Not-sure-if-trolling-or-just-stupid.jpg
 
http://www.cnbc.com/id/41665883

http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/31/virginia-georgia-utah-biz-cz_kb_0731beststates_slide_11.html?thisSpeed=undefined

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2011-06-28-cnbc-virginia-top-state_n.htm

Well, it didn't come up number one like I had previously seen, but it's up there and isn't going anywhere. California has access to tons of cheap labor and it's a terrible state for business. Obviously land isn't cheap, but the taxes are ludicrous. The government is running business out of the state.
 
Obviously land isn't cheap and the cost of living is very high...exactly. Cheap labor is just one factor.

All those articles you just posted "economic freedom" was just one factor. The economy is not private vs public. It is much more complex than that. I know it's attractive to try to see things as simple and black and white for understanding sake. However, there are so many more factors (mostly external) that go into making a state "good for business" than the level of government involvement.

 
California has almost ran industry out of the state. Government taxation and regulation of business is a very large part of what makes a state great for business. Okay, so California has cheap labor, plenty of people, a great public college system, easy access to large ports, and solid infrastructure. What else would effect business in the state? Ridiculous fucking taxes maybe? Or the regulations that have made industry so challenging to maintain within the state? Maybe I'm extremely narrow-minded, but what are these other "external factors"?
 
FDR's government regulation DID not get us out of the Great Depression. It was WWII that got us out of the Great Depression. When shit started to hit the fan in Europe we stayed isolated from it all, thus we exported supplies, military equipment, food, etc. to the European countries that bought it all. Was pretty much the only reason people got jobs here in the US. Governmental stimulus only created more of a problem cause it put us in debt, i.e. like we are in now. People should learn from this (even though they don't), stimulus from the government doesn't do any good in our economy. Only prolongs the problem.
 
Your understanding of the Great Depression is incredibly one sided. Please don't take the fact that a few economists with an agenda suddenly claim that FDR prolonged the depression as absolute fact. The large majority of historians still agree that what FDR did certainly stabilized the economy by 1939, before we had been attacked by Japan or entered the war. The war certainly assisted in an accelerated recovery, but it had already "recovered" in the sense that the downward spiral had ended more than 2 years earlier.
 
there hasn't been one accomplishment worth bragging about since clinton. Obama stepped into a shit storm from bush and i think handled it pretty nicely. He cleaned up bush's shit and then could start doing his own thing.
 
Your really showing your political education with that comment as well. Bush didn't send us another 5 trillion in debt in 3 years. he also had a higher unemployment rating. He also had things like 9/11 and katrina to deal with. Bush wants a troop surge every NS member is up in arms saying how he is a war monger, Obama pushes and gets a troop surge and "its a great idea so we can gtfo of this war." Y'all just jock liberal leaders with no real backing besides fuck bush, fuck conservatives. One day when you have to earn your own money you might start disagreeing with the political left.
 
It's unfortunate that this is how he is viewed. He is a business genius and if we ever needed a business guru to run the US now is that time. Hopefully people realize that the President actually has to do shit related to business and economics and they aren't trying to vote for the person that would look the coolest on the $33 bill.
 
Back
Top