does it really matter if a band is "punk" or not?

NoTeefa

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I dont care if you assholes think sum 41 is 'punk' or not. i still like their tunes

is there a problem with that?

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Yeah, that's perfectly alright. The way i see it, there's nothing wrong with classifying music. The problem starts when people judge bands just because of the type of music they play. Sum 41 is not punk (at least not anymore), but they're probably my favorite band! Steve Jocz rules!

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mm, they're really good. so tender and fresh and...yeah the cookies are good too, lol -petek on the topic of Girlscout cookies

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ne1 gona be at the denver sum 41 show?

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i will be at the seattle sum 41 show

But I ain't one ta gossip, so you aint heard that from me.

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i'd say sum 41 is punk, but then i don't really care if they are or not cause i like there music anyway

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no problem as long as you don't insult real punk by calling them punk.

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theyre tunes are good,but they have drifted away from the punkyness,their old stuff was more classified as 'punk',now simple plan on the hand............nevermind

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i really don't care who or what they're called or what they say they are, as long as the music is good i'm not compaining

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you like it because its made so you do like it! for money

like any other pop fuck ups out there!

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There is nothing wrong with liking music that 'isn't punk.' If it sounds good, then listening to it. You shouldn't give a fuck what others think!

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well I think it depend if a band call themselve punk and they're not and they are stupid sell out or posers I care... but if they don't call themself punk I don't care

PAG
 
ya agreed, but sum isn't out there saying look at us we're punk like other fags (ie.lagwagon). i mean they are border line punk but they're still good wether they're punk or rock

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ITS NOT THAT THEY ARNT PUNK, its the fact that they act punk, soo the posser punk kids will watch Much Music and think that they are punk, true punk bands arnt the ones that are at the top of the charts week after week after week, there the bands htat average people havnt heard of... i hate Sum 41 because they ride the punk bandwagon right to the top of the much music charts but really thats not what punk is about...

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ya but how many people even care what punk is about, most everyone i know who listens to punk don't care, they don't dress or act it, they listen to it cause they like it, i think that's what it should be about, not living the music just enjoying it cause it gets you pumped up when you're skiing or just something to sing along with while driving

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yah but it still pisses me off because... they could just call themselfs a regular pop band but they go and call themselfs punk, so the people that dont like pop will be like ohhh i want to by there Cd because they arnt 'pop' they are punk... but even though they are just a pop band

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i think that in the event they werent' on MTV everyone would consider them punk. how is it any different if people know of them. i'll always consider MXPX punk even if they get past MTV 2 and onto MTV. the classification shouldn't change on how popular they are...

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I don't agree look to rancid man they still punk and they could make milions they just don't change there musick to make more money they juste keep there style and don't give a fuck about the rest this is fuckin punk. this is What punk musick is all about if they start to be sell out u can't say there punk because being punk is a maner to think and to be

PAG
 
I think anyone can like whatever they like. However, I think that if more people were exposed to more music they would deinitly not like them. I hate the way people just take what they get and dont try to look deeper.I mean, if you like sum 41 im quite sure there are other, less known, bands you'd like better. Mainstream music is not the cream of the crop, it's the cream of the crap.

 
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mm, they're really good. so tender and fresh and...yeah the cookies are good too, lol -petek on the topic of Girlscout cookies

-Lagwagon is a moron....

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some of you guys are faggots, its just music

oh, and fuck you lagwagon, stay the fuck out of my threads

But I ain't one ta gossip, so you ain't heard that from me.

chronic comes from a tree

it was put there for you to see

and was meant to be smoked by you

or me

if i had my little way

id smoke chronic everday

gettin high before i work

or play
 
haha yeah ummm ok i don't have a problem with you liking it, but i think its just funny! and i don't think its punk coz its got nothing to do with it? how can any so called 'punk' band go on a commercial radio??? its like totally against what punks stand for, dude it makes no sense at all!

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Ok, responding to some message up above that i don't feel like quoting, Sum 41 is not 'riding the punk bandwagon' because they don't call themselves punk. They just do want they want and if people feel like labeling them as punk that's not their fault. and Sum 41 is DEFINITELY not pop, i'd call them either post-punk or even hard/alt rock. It's kinda weird, it's really hard to classify their music.

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why do they do the things they do if they dont want to... like let bands, 'become' them, they are no more punk then Ja rule is a ganster...

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hey...guys can be punk to..i mean..if stick my head in a garbage disposal

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I'm not saying it's bad in anyway, I'm just saying that I find it insulting if you call it punk and it is not. I think Sum 41 is prutty good however I like real punk more.

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Lagwagon, think about it. Punk is a type of music. Sure, there is a lifestyle associated with some of it. However, not having the lifestyle or believing in 'everything punk' or having punk beliefs can't change the music you play.

If someone plays me some music and asks what genre I think it is, I'm not going to ask what the backstory on the band is. The genre is contained in the music not how long the bassist's mohawk is or how many stupid anarchy pins and patches are on the lead singer's tatered leather jacket. Stop kidding yourself.

Also, you say that essentially when a band gets played on comercial radio its no longer punk. Sucessful bands make it on to the radio. True, some bands make the hard decision of refusing. But if they are signed to a label, usually the label puts them on anyway. Typically, crappy or unsuccessful bands don't make it onto the radio. Read into that however you want. Typically, a lot of punk does suck, its very easy to play and doesn't take a lot of talent. Not saying there aren't some good punk bands out there, but the majority lack talent.

Stop thinking you're the king all-knower of punk and think about things logically.

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mm, they're really good. so tender and fresh and...yeah the cookies are good too, lol -petek on the topic of Girlscout cookies

-Lagwagon is a moron....

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nicely put.

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Yah i agree with whoever said the sum 41 isnt punk but it dosent matter. personally i really dont like them, but who cares? if other ppl do then so be it, let them listen to it. i prefer hard punk/ska but its all good. keep on rokin. o and if anyone wants to talk punk, just send me a message.

 
but the thing that pisses me of is how people say what they are not. If i started a band and sung about how black and getto i was and shit like that, people might like it at first but be liek wht the fuck is wrogn with this kid, hes not black... its the same story with sum 41

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