Do you think that professional athletes are overpaid?

I just did a quick google search, one said 6 bil, the other said 14. I just went with the lower of the too. So you're probably correct.
 
i think basic math is to say.

these days most pro athletes go to prep high schools for sports, right? so they pretty much start training to become a professional athlete when they are, say, 14 or so. doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. don't start training to be those things until college, or even grad school in many cases. lets put it at 19 to be kind and assume that all doctor's, lawyers, teachers know right away they want to be those things and choose their major in college accordingly. that's still 5 less years than the pro athletes spend training for what they do. and, in reality, lawyers, teachers, doctors don't start training for their profession right when they enter college, especially lawyers and teachers. doctors do to an extent just because they have to do the pre-med tract in college in order to get into med school.

on the other hand you can easily say that all those professions require you to work very hard to succeed, because they do, and that it deserves to be compensated for. i mean, lawyers and doctors do make a lot of money, too.
 
I don't think they're overpaid, I think it has to do with the amount of money they generate. If they're creating that much revenue for their franchise, who else would the money go to? the owners who already make substantially more than them? Also, professional sports careers are much shorter than other professions like lawyer or doctor which you can practice most of your life
 
the reason police are often up there is because they can work extra. Overtime, details, etc can add up. The base pay isn't great, but if you really devote yourself to the job and work a heap of overtime and consistent details, you can make a nice amount.

I for one would never want to be a professional athlete. All my experiences with the inner workings of a pro team are with baseball, and during the season their work just doesn't stop. They'll start a homestand on a monday night (arriving 5-6 hours before each game starts) and won't stop until sunday afternoon. Then immediately after the sunday game they get on a plane and fly cross country for another 4 game stand, then they fly somewhere else, and so on. From april until october.

Sure they make a ton of money doing it, and most of them seem to really love it, but I think it'd wear me down fast.
 
No, they make assloads of money but they also only work for a couple years. Professional sports are extremely popular throughout the world, and with that much money floating around in that industry the athletes are just taking their cut.
 
Also all this lockout shit is fucking stupid, by becoming a pro athlete you are accepting the risks that come with it. If you make >$1,000,000 than I'm sure you can pay for your health insurance, or if you can't get a real job after your time as a pro athlete is over.
 
Why are some of you considering how hard of work it is? What a stupid argument.

The main response to that is that it doesn't fucking matter how hard you work, all that matters is what you produce. The dude who invented the Nerf ball didn't work hard and he's a millionaire. Is that wrong?

I wish people would think fucking rationally.
 
Haha, I don't know where I got that idea from, sorry. I kinda went on a tangent. And op asked if sports players are over paid, I agree, that's me. I think being an athlete is hard work because people make it out to be. People work a lot harder doing more meaningful things and make a lot less than athletes. but I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. Just answering a question
 
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Yes....overwhelmingly yes. Its not even a question. They are being paid to do something that is considered recreation.

Im sorry, anybody who says yes is kind of retarded. It doesn't matter how much dedication, or training, or effort....your still being paid to perform acts of recreation. Im sorry, but sport as a whole does not contribute directly to society as a whole. Sure Cary Price makes me happy when he has a shut out, but a paramedic will save/help save countless lives over his continued years of service. One will be paid millions of dollars, while another will have to worry about saving for a pension.

Sorry, its not even a question. The priorities of modern society are fucked.
 
Yeah and if millions of people wanted to watch a carpenter build a rocking horse then carpenters would be millionaires, so should we go watch that? No. We should watch what entertains us, and sports are the elite sources of entertainment. There is a reason we watch it, and thus there is a reason they get paid. It isn't a question of who works harder, who helps more underprivileged children, or who helps old ladies cross the road.

It's survival of the fittest applied to potentially entertaining activities, these are the results of what we want.

I don't see your argument, Do you not enjoy watching any pro sports?
 
Apparently Beckham made L.A. Galaxy more money then what they paid for him in extra ticket sales and merchandise alone.
 
No.

I don't think "education" should be the only determining factor of salary. There's a lot more to this world than college degrees. Athletes have a talent and dedication that sets them apart from everyone else and take a huge risk in pursuing a career as a pro. All the D1 athletes that don't get drafted put in an absurd amount of their own time and probably missed out on a lot of the aspects of college life everyone talks about. They also don't get paid at all for playing college sports but bring in so much money for the school.
 
Its society's view on what is important to us. We think sports are more important then some basic human fundamentals.

We are so overexposed that we no longer have an idea of what is really important in our lives until a sudden event changes our perspectives.

Example:

While watching the world series with your girlfriend, you see a pitcher have an outstanding performance and believe that his is worth all 120 million dollars of his contract. He has skills, and training that help win this game, and believe that these are worth all the money because his is going to help win the game.

As you drive home a drunk driver blindsides you, and your girlfriend is hurt bad. She is bleeding out, and you have no idea what to do. First responders arrive. They take care of her using skills, experience, and training that have gained over the years. Now.....which is more important to you: the paramedic, or the pitcher?

Both have skills, experience and training that render them valuable.....but your view of their value changes based on your situation.

Pro sports are great, and i love to watch......but they are heavily overpaid/overvalued by our society as a whole.
 
i honestly dont. the best players make many millions per year, and it's deserved. for every ten thousand people you have what, one make it pro? and of all those pros, you have one making top dollar. it'd be easier to be a doctor and just study hard in school and guarantee yourself a good living, or even a businessman. there are tens of thousands of millionaire businessmen in north america.

plus, it's entertainment. the public pays their salaries. if we had a problem with overpaid athletes, we could stop going to sports events and stop buying jerseys and shit. people love entertainment. i love entertainment. i'm happy to pay their salaries because i love watching sports. it brings my friends together, my family together, and a few of them make millions in return for what they provide us, so be it. they chose to work their asses off since childhood so they could be the best, and being rewarded for it doesn't rustle my jimmies nope nope not one bit.
 
No one thinks sports are more important than basic human fundamentals or whatever you said.

It's economics. These players generate billions of dollars for the owners. The owners want to have the best teams, so they pay big money to get big talent.

Not to mention there's only like what, 800 players in the MLB, vs hundres of thousands of EMTs in the country. How do you purpose we raise all of the EMTs salaries?

It all comes down to what they produce. Sure, EMTs produce a vital product that is needed in society. But as mentioned before, they're not generating billions of dollars in ticket sales and TV deals.

It's not right or wrong, it's just the way the world works.
 
Honestly why don't you tell them what YOU think. That's the point of homework. Easy project regardless of what you pick or even if you don't care about the topic.

I say no. I mean are they over paid douche bags fighting over millions, yes. Are they bitches about it yes. At the same time look how much advertising $ they bring in. Professional sports are peoples favorite thing. They rake in a fuck ton from advertising and it's not ridiculous that that gets put down to the athletes that are the basis for the whole obsession.

At the same time anyone who fights and bitches about pay checks that big is a douche in my book.
 
Thats wrong. People do think that sports are more important. As a matter of fact just look in this thread, and see a few of the posts above you. Its not a matter of economics, its a matter of value. Not so long ago pro sports players were paid salaries under the 100 000$ mark. It was vued as entertainment, and you got paid as an entertainer. Simple.

Well seeing as one athlete has the potential to make over hundreds of millions of dollars......but sure we could cut that up many fold and raise the salaries of many other workers. Sorry there maybe only a few sports players, but one will make more in 5 years then any EMT will make over 5 lifetimes of work.

Its fucked up dude. Im sorry, but it is.
 
I have not seen anywhere in this thread that someone has said that sports and entertainment are more important than EMTs, teachers, etc.

It is economics man. Supply and demand. There is not a big supply of big name athletes which drives up demand. These teams have a ridiculous amount of money they to use to compete over signing these guys which drives up the prices.

And when pro players were not making over a 100k, their leagues were not raking in billions of dollars. The revenue and salaries go hand in hand.

 
What do you think about Ibrahimovich?

He gets a 15 million euro salary after tax. That is a lot, but he will bring that money back by merchandise and his incredibly performance so far.

But also, PSG pays 38 million dollars in right now tax and a crazy 69 million dollars in tax if the new tax on the super rich will be put trough. That money flows back to the needy. (And then comes the debate of who are needy.)
 
hey, come on now, man, you're not retarded, don't call yourself that. no one thinks that about you, i promise
 
NASCAR is way more challenging than you would think. They have such little grip and so much power that it is incredible they even stay on the track.

But on the thread topic, they are underpaid if anything. They are paid what people deem they are worth to them. Simply put it is supply and demand, and they happen to have a short supply of people on their caliber with a high demand to play so people can watch them. No one wants to watch people who are bad at football play it, it would be incredibly boring
 
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