Do YOU have footbeds?

[tomPietrowski]

but you wouldn't recommend it if im using them for some everyday walking around too?

Sorry for mad threadjack, but youre like the foot doctor of NS

Well I do it I use ski ones in my every day shoes. They just crack under the ball of the foot eventually but it really does not effect them. I'm currently wearing a set of 4 year old footbeds and yes they have cracked on the base but you would never know unless you look at the base of the footbed.

 

[I_Am_Mod]

How do you guys manage to fit the insoles in your daily shoes? I tried them(orange superfeet) in a pair of mine but after walking about 10 steps outside I realized - I'd made a huge mistake and it was as tight as ops mum(I apologize for bringing nsg to the only intelligent forum).

There's a difference between skiing footbeds and normal ones, skiing ones are much stiffer and higher volume

regular footbeds are softer because they need to flex naturally with the shoe

that being said, my custom beds are strictly for my skiboots but the cheaper preformed ones worked fine in my shoes

 

[tomPietrowski]

There's a difference between skiing footbeds and normal ones, skiing ones are much stiffer and higher volume

regular footbeds are softer because they need to flex naturally with the shoe

that being said, my custom beds are strictly for my skiboots but the cheaper preformed ones worked fine in my shoes

Not always. It will depend on the shoe. Take a stiff hiking boot or a Spd bike shoe, they will both have soles which do not flex much. For these a ski style footbed will be ideal. For a skate shoe you may find you need the forefoot of the footbed softer but you may find you want the medial and lateral support the same as you do in a ski boot. In the summer I make maybe half ski footbeds and half shoe footbeds even though nearly non of the footbeds I make over summer are for ski boots. The foot and item of footwear determine what we use So if you are unsure go chat to a decent fitter/podiatrist.

 

[Huck_Norris]

but you wouldn't recommend it if im using them for some everyday walking around too?

Sorry for mad threadjack, but youre like the foot doctor of NS

Well support-wise whie standing, yes. Technically though, the ski boot is a very dynamic tool for energy transfer- the soft side of your shoe could never lock your foot in the same. Sure, you can lace it down hard and gain benefit from footbeds but it's just not the same. In a ski boot they become much more important unless you're a trail runner or something.

This brings me to a very big difference- IMO in a ski boot you're trying to make as perfect a hard mold to your foot as possible on all sides. Top, bottom, sides and front/back. The better you can mimic your foot shape with basic shape and stretches, grinds, footbeds, molds etc the better your energy transfer will be aka the less will be lost in translation between your brain/foot and the boot/ski. Think of it as a house- you need four walls, a floor and a roof. Without footbeds you're leaving out the floor of your house. No matter how hard you clamp those boots down the bottom of your foot is still pronating on a basically flat surface or one that is just a so-so match to your foot. It will not lock in the same and even if you don't feel it, you foot is sliding a very small amount when you make a turn or a move. Also it creates hot spots or areas of concentrated load which can get uncomfortable in a hurry. By getting customs you lock your plantar surface in a perfect 3D cradle that will evenly distribute your weight as well as forces you impart on them.

To me it is equal parts fit/comfort/performance but man, it really is a whole different world with customs that work for you.

 

[tomPietrowski]

Very good advice. That is exactly how a boot should fit and what every fitter should strive too.

 

[tomPietrowski]

Well I do it I use ski ones in my every day shoes. They just crack under the ball of the foot eventually but it really does not effect them. I'm currently wearing a set of 4 year old footbeds and yes they have cracked on the base but you would never know unless you look at the base of the footbed.

I should add to this that the footbeds I use in my shoes although the same base footbed in the same shapeare supported in a much softer manner. They allow much more movement then I would want in a ski boot but it works well in a soft shoe. However there aresome footwear like bike shoes, hiking boots and even some long distance running shoes which can use stiff ski boot style footbeds.

 

[rozboon]

Full custom supported Sidas.

Cost me $120NZD (roughly 2 bob and a piece of pocket lint in the old money)

To the guy who paid $300 all up for footbeds, wow, that's ruthless.