Conspiracy Theory/Thought Provoking Videos/Podcasts

messplay

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I've been listening to different podcasts as I go about my days drafting at work and have been looking for more in depth videos or audio samples on subjects of matter. I have seen all of the 9/11 Loose Change, Sandy Hook, OKC Bomb, etc etc videos from way back. I'm looking for anything relative from TED talks to independent research on things relating to government control (NWO), scientific breakthroughs, existentialism/religion, health, and extraterrestrial findings/area 51 knowledge. Basically things that aren't exactly known to the public.

I like to be able to argue and have random facts/findings during controversial topics.

Share what you will, thankssss~
 
13010517:yoski. said:
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Check out Clyde Lewis. His radio show is called Ground Zero and it airs every night. He just went national
 
Not really "way back" but whatever.

It's nice how easy information is to access these days but it also blows how easy it is to put out bullshit.

Avoid anything with Alex Jones.

Not super ridiculous but "freedom to fascism" about the income tax was a good watch. I haven't really looked into much in years but I'll post some stuff when I remember.
 
Well first of all, Loose Change has been ripped apart by Popular Mechanics so if you think anything they say holds weight.....

Same goes with Sandy Hook, all the theories are riddle with holes.

So no I won't help you because conspiracy theorists are idiots and their "facts" are almost always idealistic.
 
Loose Change is absolute garbage. If you want a more scientific and unbiased doc. look up Massimo Mazzucco’s 'September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor.’ It lets the debunkers state their case. It is about 5 hours long and well worth the watch.
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=167

'Evidence of Revision' is also another great doc. It’s around 9 hours long. It present the publicly unavailable and even suppressed historical audio, video, and film recordings largely unseen by the American public relating to the assassination of the Kennedy brothers, the little known classified Black Ops actually used to intentionally create the massive war in Viet Nam, the CIA "mind control” programs including MKULTRA and MKNaomi and their involvement in the RFK assassination and the Jonestown massacre and other important truths of our post-modern time.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/evidence-of-revision/

John Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman.”

If you have time read Gustave Le Bon’s books, ‘The Crowd’ and 'Psychology of Revolution’ or Edward Bernays books ‘Propaganda’ and ‘Crystalizing Public Opinion’ or read Dictatorship to Democracy or National Security Through Civilian Based Defense by Gene Sharp.
 
13010574:theabortionator said:
Not really "way back" but whatever.

It's nice how easy information is to access these days but it also blows how easy it is to put out bullshit.

Avoid anything with Alex Jones.

Not super ridiculous but "freedom to fascism" about the income tax was a good watch. I haven't really looked into much in years but I'll post some stuff when I remember.

Inside Job is another great doc. Talks about the 2008 financial crisis. And like theabortionator said avoid Alex Jones. He’s an opportunist.
 
13010591:theabortionator said:
sick generalization.

No they are, they only look for facts that further their ideals and disregard and actual facts that prove them wrong. So yes, I'll generalize because I have never ever read or seen anything a conspiracy theorist has put forth that holds up to any sort of scrutiny. Downvote this comment, that just proves to me you can't take criticism.
 
13010683:Granite_State said:
No they are, they only look for facts that further their ideals and disregard and actual facts that prove them wrong. So yes, I'll generalize because I have never ever read or seen anything a conspiracy theorist has put forth that holds up to any sort of scrutiny. Downvote this comment, that just proves to me you can't take criticism.

You probably down voted it yourself lol.

And there are a ton of assclown conspiracy theorists out there, but that doesn't mean they all are. The point is to fact check everything. You argue that many conspiracy theorists never do this which is 100% true, but most people in general never fact check anything. "I saw it on the news or read it on the internet therefore it must be 100% true"

End of the Road is a good doc if you're into economics. I've been a fan of peter schiff for a long time but I feel like it'd still be a good watch even if you just randomly saw it.
 
13010683:Granite_State said:
No they are, they only look for facts that further their ideals and disregard and actual facts that prove them wrong. So yes, I'll generalize because I have never ever read or seen anything a conspiracy theorist has put forth that holds up to any sort of scrutiny. Downvote this comment, that just proves to me you can't take criticism.

That’s a division fallacy. Maybe you should read up about TWA Flight 800.
 
13011543:CONAIR_BUSCEMI said:
That’s a division fallacy. Maybe you should read up about TWA Flight 800.

Link me, i have an open mind. Im still waiting for any evidence in the 9/11 case that conspiracy theorists have put forth that cant be shot down.
 
13011556:Granite_State said:
Link me, i have an open mind. Im still waiting for any evidence in the 9/11 case that conspiracy theorists have put forth that cant be shot down.

Watch Flight TWA 800 it is on Netflix. After that look at eyewitness testimonies and the one picture that shows a streaking object moving towards the plane. Over 200 eyewitnesses and none were allowed to testify before Congress at the hearing. I also remember a time back a US Navy Master Chief on USS Trepang admitted that the Navy shot down TWA 800 but he was later shut up and retracted his statements.
 
13011556:Granite_State said:
Link me, i have an open mind. Im still waiting for any evidence in the 9/11 case that conspiracy theorists have put forth that cant be shot down.

Who had anything to gain from 9/11? Some terrorist that hate 'murica cause we're too free? or the government. The terrorists declared war on 'murica yet there was no fighting until we invaded the middle east. You'd think they'd be able to follow it up if they were at war. Maybe not as elaborate but there are a ton of things they could have done if it was a war.

Then you have the government which was able to pass all kinds of fucked up legislation, and invade the middle east. Now passing a law, invading a country, or getting stupid amounts of $ for defense is easy. You just drop the word terrorism and you can do anything.

I don't know what happened on sept 11th. I do know that our government had the most to gain. Also there are a stupid amount of "coincidences" that make it impossible to believe the official story is 100% true.
 
Also look at all the $$$ being made over there. The contractors raking in billions, and the politicians that have ties to those corporations.

What went down that day will always be a mystery.

As far as conspiracy theories there are some that are based on logic, and some that are just out there. Then you get clowns like alex jones stirring up the pot and it makes it easy to right off all of them as bullshit.

I don't have the answers, I probably never will, but I don't mind asking questions. The problem we have is that even asking logical questions makes you a bad person, anti american or whatever. You don't have to be sherlock holmes to see that there might be some problems with the official story.
 
13011556:Granite_State said:
Link me, i have an open mind. Im still waiting for any evidence in the 9/11 case that conspiracy theorists have put forth that cant be shot down.

Plus, financial transactions in the days before the attack suggest that certain individuals used foreknowledge to reap huge profits. All those stocks were sold from the airplane company because people had insider knowledge and the government sealed the records of who these traders were!

Answer these questions:

The Secret Service knew about the incoming plane for the last 30 minutes, was following on radar, had the means to shoot it down, and should have done so in order to protect the Capital, but they didn't. Why?

In regards to the exchange between Cheney and the "young man", can you suggest anything different from an order not to shoot down the plane as it was approaching Washington's protected airspace?

How could the terrorists be "preparing to take control of the flight" at 9:45 when they had already been in the cockpit for more than 15 minutes?

Given that, according to the Pentagon Building Performance Report, "the aircraft frame most certainly was destroyed before it had traveled a distance that approximately equaled the length of the aircraft (p. 40)", and that "it is highly unlikely that any significant portion of the fuselage could have retained structural integrity at this point in its travel (p. 40)", can you explain what caused the most perfectly round exit hole in the outer wall of the C-Ring?

Given that the maximum fluctuation between the two cameras would translate in a difference of 25 feet in the position of the plane, can you provide a valid explanation for the large discrepancy between the two corresponding frames? Absent a valid explanation for this discrepancy, we must conclude that at least one of the two frames is the result of intentional manipulation, or "photoshopping”.

Can you explain how most of an airplane weighing 100 tons could end up buried deep underground in a hole that closed itself up before the first responders arrived?

Since the plane was carrying 8 to 10,000 gallons of fuel at the time of impact, can you explain why there is no plume of black smoke raising from the ground after the initial explosion?

Since the plane is supposed to have hit the ground in one piece, can you explain how it was possible for debris to be found 6 to 8 miles from the crash site on a day when only a light breeze was blowing?

Since they were only 20 minutes away from Washington and for almost 6 minutes the passengers had been unable to enter the cockpit, why didn't the hijackers continue flying towards the Capital?

The "Sagging Trusses" Theory: Problem - 1. No proof of insulation "widely dislodged". 2. No proof of temperatures above 250ºC (480ºF).

Can you provide any evidence that the fireproofing from the steel trusses was "widely dislodged" by the impact of the planes, which NIST has made a necessary condition for the collapses to be caused by fire?

Can you provide any evidence that the temperatures in the Twin Towers were high enough, and lasted long enough, to seriously weaken steel in the areas where the initial collapses occurred?

Can explain how a sagging truss weakened by heat could pull and eventually break apart the structure it is attached to with no external force being applied to it?

Given that "the building section above came down essentially in freefall" (Source: NIST NCSTAR1 - p. 146); given that for freefall to occur no supporting structure must be present; and given that the falling sections did not have any extra energy to destroy the structure below, can you suggest anything different from some kind of demolition for the removal of the supporting structure which was necessary for near freefall speed to be achieved?

Major elevators renovation. 2. Heavy equipment moved on empty floors. 3. Bomb sniffing dogs removed. 4. Unprecedented power down (first time in 30 years)

Fuel in elevator shafts theory: 1. No regular elevators from top to bottom. (Diagram 1 | Diagram 2) 2. Personnel not cremated by "fireball". 3. Volumes not considered

Given that after the initial explosion and the ensuing fires there wouldn't have been enough jet fuel left to pour down the elevator shafts in substantial quantities, can you explain the at least three separate explosions reported by multiple witnesses at the time of the first impact in the North Tower?

In particular, can you explain the huge explosion reported by multiple witnesses in the basement of the North Tower moments before the impact of the plane?

Can you explain what caused the huge explosion that literally devastated the lobby of the North Tower, according to multiple witnesses, about one hour after the impact of the plane and before the collapse of Tower Two?

Can you explain what caused the big explosion reported by Mr. Jennings and Mr. Hess on the 8th floor of Building 7, before either tower had collapsed?

Can you explain what caused the multiple explosions recorded by different camera crews including the BBC and CNN, after the towers had collapsed and before the collapse of Building 7?

Can you explain how more than 100 witnesses, most of them firefighters and policemen, could have all "been mistaken" in reporting explosions at the WTC?

Given that what we see is clearly not glass from a broken window but concrete and debris, can you explain what caused the squibs observed 30-40 floors below the level of collapse?

Given that the falling, upper sections of the towers had no additional energy to destroy the healthy structure below, where did the energy to hurdle these large chunks of structure at such a distance from the towers come from?

Do you believe that Suqami's passport was found in the WTC rubble, intact and could be easily read?
 
Check out the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. He dabbles in conspiracy theories and has even had guest on that spend a lot of time researching the topics. However, too many episodes for me to figure out where a great place to start would be.

One thing he talks about a lot is the fact that 9/11 is a conspiracy theory in itself. The guys who constructed the idea conspired themselves. Think about it, mannnn
 
13011832:-benedetto said:
Check out the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. He dabbles in conspiracy theories and has even had guest on that spend a lot of time researching the topics. However, too many episodes for me to figure out where a great place to start would be.

One thing he talks about a lot is the fact that 9/11 is a conspiracy theory in itself. The guys who constructed the idea conspired themselves. Think about it, mannnn

Yeahh the JRE is legit, Rogain is a good dude. Some of his podcasts are hit and miss but the ones I've seen on health, psyche, etc. have been excellent. He knows his shit too. Explain the 9/11 inception conspiracy though...not following..
 
Most people who question the plane aspect of 9/11 usually have no knowledge of any plane crashes, so that's not a discussion worth having.

With that said though, twa800 is a very interesting/horrifying one. Any of several theories could work, but none can be proven. Also a terrifying way to die...the NTSB simulation of what happened haunted me when I was younger.
 
I highly recommend anyone who's interested in paranormal shit listen to this excerpt from a radio show. It's about the people who go missing in national forests and brings up some pretty good questions. Guy does a very good job at not just immediately pointing his finger at bigfoot too.


theres a couple other interviews too
 
13011842:fujarome said:
Most people who question the plane aspect of 9/11 usually have no knowledge of any plane crashes, so that's not a discussion worth having.

With that said though, twa800 is a very interesting/horrifying one. Any of several theories could work, but none can be proven. Also a terrifying way to die...the NTSB simulation of what happened haunted me when I was younger.

link me to this sim of twa800. also a good video of one of the theories, there's so many on youtube with low views....
 
13011845:messplay said:
link me to this sim of twa800. also a good video of one of the theories, there's so many on youtube with low views....

I think there's a doc on netflix now that covers most of it and shows the simulations. I could be wrong.
 

Best I can do while at work.

Just keep in mind that most of those people were alive until they hit the water
 
13011855:fujarome said:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrSbSuTWn68

Best I can do while at work.

Just keep in mind that most of those people were alive until they hit the water


what the fuck? anyone with the most basic education can see how dumb this animation is...

youre missing the nose of the plane and able climb higher then before? wut?

The aircraft would literally tear apart (assuming it wouldnt explode) if it had enough speed to climb and had such a gapping hole in the front of the plane..... theres many cases of airliners ripping apart because of slight damage to the fuselage...
 
13011842:fujarome said:
Most people who question the plane aspect of 9/11 usually have no knowledge of any plane crashes, so that's not a discussion worth having.

With that said though, twa800 is a very interesting/horrifying one. Any of several theories could work, but none can be proven. Also a terrifying way to die...the NTSB simulation of what happened haunted me when I was younger.

The CIA animation is impossible. All eyewitness of the TWA 800 crash said it wasn't even close to what they saw. A 747 cannot make this kind of climb without a wing stall coupled with engine failure. In addition you have CIA agents messing with the evidence during private investigation. Not one of 200 plus witnesses who saw a streaking light hit TWA 800 were allowed to testify before Congress at the hearing.

A witness even took a picture that shows a streaking object moving towards the plane. I like the CIA animation where it states over and over again, ‘not a missile.’
 
13011855:fujarome said:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrSbSuTWn68

Best I can do while at work.

Just keep in mind that most of those people were alive until they hit the water

That animation hurts me head. What a lie it is.
 
13011874:Phil-X- said:

what the fuck? anyone with the most basic education can see how dumb this animation is...

youre missing the nose of the plane and able climb higher then before? wut?

The aircraft would literally tear apart (assuming it wouldnt explode) if it had enough speed to climb and had such a gapping hole in the front of the plane..... theres many cases of airliners ripping apart because of slight damage to the fuselage...

THNAK YOU.

I hope no one believes this,

 
What throws me off is that the climb is very possible, and that witnesses are notoriously unreliable. They didn't all describe nearly the same thing until others came out and said it. Then suddenly all the accounts started changing to match.

The fuel tank explosion is plausible, but I don't get how it would cut the nose off cleanly. And the missile theory doesn't make sense because it doesn't match any wreckage of a plane that was shot down. Not to mention how many people would have to be kept quiet for that to work.

It's just such a strange crash
 
13011899:fujarome said:
What throws me off is that the climb is very possible, and that witnesses are notoriously unreliable. They didn't all describe nearly the same thing until others came out and said it. Then suddenly all the accounts started changing to match.

The fuel tank explosion is plausible, but I don't get how it would cut the nose off cleanly. And the missile theory doesn't make sense because it doesn't match any wreckage of a plane that was shot down. Not to mention how many people would have to be kept quiet for that to work.

It's just such a strange crash

Well the explosion was from an exterior force.

Plus, explosives residue in the plane wreckage and other physical evidence in the wreckage suggests missile(s). Data from different radars show pieces of the plane being blown off at speeds that could only have been generated by high explosives, not by a fuel tank exploding. Radar data also shows the plane falling, not rising. (The CIA claimed, without offering any evidence, that the plane rose into the sky as it was exploding, thus accounting for witnesses’ reports of seeing objects rising.) The damage to the seats and passengers in the plane was random as well.
 
what the shit didnt realize that first video was supposed to be supporting the official report of the plane... thought that the nose falling off + the altitude gain was the conspiracy hahah

the official reports are more realistic then that one video, but still very sketchy
 
13011972:Phil-X- said:
what the shit didnt realize that first video was supposed to be supporting the official report of the plane... thought that the nose falling off + the altitude gain was the conspiracy hahah

the official reports are more realistic then that one video, but still very sketchy

The video you posted and bashed was the official narrative not the alternative narrative. What do you mean by "official reports are more realistic than that one video?”

That video is beyond garbage and to this day it is the official account.
 
13012002:CONAIR_BUSCEMI said:
The video you posted and bashed was the official narrative not the alternative narrative. What do you mean by "official reports are more realistic than that one video?”

That video is beyond garbage and to this day it is the official account.

just the actual visualization in the video was a bit unrealistic at the nose tumble+climb. I still dont think its possible for it to have climbed without issue to that extent/ the way its explained. It definitely could have gone up A LITTLE because of the drag the damage cause, however to say its continued to gain for a while is redic
 
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