this is the email i got from them regarding sizing:
"Hi, I do apologize but the brand CLH didn't provide us with a size
chart to go by, but it's best to go by the size chart provided by the
company. I contacted the merchandising department and CLH hoodies run a
little baggy and loose fitted. The models are usually 5'10" and they
wear a large. I would normally get the size you normally wear.
Thank you "
so i ended up ordering a trip XL and a dub XL so let's hope she's half wrong at least...