Classy/Freshest kicks. .

Those are element, I had them on my hands in NYC 2 weeks ago.

And I have to decide between these ones:

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no and no.

That guy looks like a total douche. Im not fashion master but this pic needs improvement

- If you button up all the way, get a tie. I like skinny ties

- Don't button up all them way

- That shirt needs to be ironed.

- The way those pants fit his crotch is hideous

- and you odn't wear fucking high top sneakers with dress clothes. It looks like a petty attempt at some sneaker freak trying to look classy, but really he just looks immature.

fashionable? yes.

Looks good? not in the slightest

 
yeah I was more thinking about people who wear them around cities. I can't imagine buying boots worth several hundred dollars to trek through the mud

 
Hence the stitching is that rough. Also look at the leather on the first one, that's not nice, that's a shitty piece of leather.

Also i.m.h.o.I find the design of both to be downright horrible.

 
I totally read the title in Donald Trumps voice

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these are the classiest, freshest and all around most unbelievable kicks I have ever seen. I'm so very proud of what I've accomplished by purchasing these shoes
 
Is this dude trying to look like an 18 year old Mormon boy? He is just missing a black tie.

Also, whatever shoes those are, look fucking horrible. They look like those dumbass Kanye West shoes except he is wearing them with an outfit that is for selling bibles.

 
I get most of my shoes bespoke made in Milan by Riccardo Freccia Bestetti. I get my bespoke suits from Cesare Attolini.

I think that one guy in the picture probably looks fashionable, but in the world of fine tailoring and style he looks like an idiot.

You don't mix dress pants with sneakers, never.

You don't fasten all your buttons without a tie.

The fit on the shirt is bad, on the pants it's atrocious.
 
stock photos make them look retarded haha. i love/hate both of those shoes but would never buy either simply cuz of the price tag.
 
Since the other thread died and I assembled this whole thing via mobile, here are my 2 most worn pairs of shoes for non-snowy conditions: with shorts:
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Can't believe this debate is still going on.

Hilarious part about this post is that a lot of people who really know their shit about men's tailored clothing wouldn't touch Bestetti's shoes. Way too trendy, too pointy, too elongated. Just way too extreme to be really elegant, despite being very nicely made (and accordingly expensive). Not to mention have you seen the RTW line? Some of that stuff is just... way, way out there. The style of shoe associated with Italy these days (Bestetti is an example not an exception) is too dramatic. English makers FTW.

Personally I wear Alden because a) I got over the whole uber-sleek Italian ferrari sportscar phase when I was 21, and b) they are the only maker of nicely lasted well-built shell cordovan jawnz that you can get for around $500 a pair, which is what seems reasonable to me. And yes, I probably know as much or more about dress shoes and dress shoe construction than you do - though I guess for all I know you're Ron Rider. But given you're posting on NS I'd say it's a pretty good bet.

I will not be hating on Attolini suits, good for you (mine are made by Rafaelle Caruso by the way) but buying X, Y or Z doesn't mean you know what's going on. Some of the dudes on Styleforum's Men's Clothing section, which is the best repository for information now that AAAC is dead, write books on this stuff. Some of them would endorse your views, but for the most part people realize that it's like the difference between a Mozart piece and an Arcade Fire album - you can't compare the two, they're different genres, but they can both make good music.

I just go back to my original point - if you don't nerd out about this stuff, forming strong opinions on it is the same as non-skiers who have strong opinions on urban skiing. "What's the point of skiing on metal? Skis are made for snow." They have no frame of reference and it's facepalm-worthy stuff.

Actual classy sneakers are pretty easy, by the way, guys. It's called the Achilles. They've been making them for years in god knows how many colourways and materials.

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I have other shoes, EG, JL, C&J, Santoni, SM, but I prefer the craftsmanship of Bestetti and I go for bespoke remember, after my demands my last is way more like a classical Santoni last that I prefer (no not the pointy almost clown like "Prince" last.)

I also don't go for extremes, I just sent him my favourite shoes of any brand and he recreates them exactly the same, with a better fit, better leather and way better construction.

His RTW line is more Show-off stuff and I wouldn't touch it, just like those horrible Santoni winter boots.

I think the Alden lasts are way too crude, too rounded, too hamfisted.

" I probably know as much or more about dress shoes and dress shoe construction than you do"

Never ever even suggest such things, you don't know me and I don't know you.
 
i dunno much about shoes

got these tho, wear them kind like a high top, get lots of compliments. very surprised.

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Can't you two bitches suck each other's dicks over clothes in the Lookbook cult about it with the rest of the clothes queens? We get it. You're so stylish that mere mortals like us can't possibly fathom how stylish you really are. You only look like idiots to the untrained eye- I should have known.

Get real. You fucking fashion femmes call yourselves men??? All I see is a bunch of bitches obsessed with accessorizing who can't wait to prance around for pics to post to other shallow bitches to critique how they look. Shit's sad as fuck. Talk about the pussification of the modern man, why don't you guys just gave a good old fashioned fashion show or a walk-off and settle this like Hansel and Zoolander would?

 
We get it, you're so not stylish that mere mortals like us can't possibly fathom how unstylish you really are. You only look like an idiot to the trained eye.

Get real, you're fucking fashion retarded & call yourself a woman??? All I see is a bitch obsessed with looking ugly (like you are) who can't wait to prance around for pics to post of other "i love boobiez" bracelet wearing bitches & to comment on how "ill" that bracelet is. Shit's sad as fuck, talk about the dickification of the modern woman. Why don't you just have a good old fashion shopping spree in walmarts discount section & just buy a pair of $20 cinderella sneakers & then complain about how "expensive" these were & how fashion is stupid?

So, in conclusion, you're an ignorant piece of shit, as the mens fashion industry is just as prominent as the womens is, & in fact, will most likely because equivalent to it. Taking interest in fashion & debating it is not "pussification" nor does it make anyone less of a "man" because any normal woman would want a man who is well dressed. So fuck you & go suck on your boyfriends dick. I bet he looks good in his Neff t-shirt & american eagle jeans.
 
Someone needs to get laid...

there is a difference between well dressed and pouring 90% of your income into expensive clothing.
 
you're talking from behind a computer screen. No sense to argue with you about how much pussy you don't get.

& being well dressed requires money. Fashion is money. Clothes are money. Quality is money. You want some quality fashionable clothes, then you're going to have to dish out money.

At the end of the day I can argue this for days on here but I make money & I spend it on whatever the fuck I want. I'll sound conceited & spoiled through the internet but I have jeans worth more than your closet & a closet worth more than your car. I get pussy, & bitches love my style. Now hate as much as you want.
 
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Nah man, you're good. Nothing conceited about that!

I guess I was wrong about you fashionista frolickers. I guess the "male fashion industry" doesnt exist solely so guys who can't help themselves from acting like total bitches don't have to resort to full crossdresser status after all. I was way off. You guys aren't shallow insecure douchebags at all!!

 
yaaaaaaaaay I'm a shallow insecure douchebag! according to Huck_Norris of newschoolers. Whoooooooooop

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You're not nearly as rich or cool as you think you are, and expensive clothes =/= taste or class. Eventually, when you're older than 17, you'll figure that out. As far as your "I have jeans worth more than your closet, and my closet is worth more than your car" comment, I can only laugh at how ridiculously false that statement is when comparing yourself to 90% of NS. Keep on thinking that just because your clothes are expensive, they look good, but that subtle snickering you hear when in public is everyone laughing at you.
 
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