Church is Kind of Dope

Farmville420

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I've been going to church semi often recently and honestly it's pretty sick. I think a lot of people hate religion because it was either forced on them or they only know the megachurch cultist approach (which is cancer). It feels pretty awesome to say some prayers and just be spiritual for a little bit. I got into it when my physics prof called out Stephen Hawking for disobeying the scientific method by just saying "there is no god" despite the universes creation coming from some absolutely unexplainable "event". It's a good way to sit and listen to stories about prophets and then pray for the ones you have lost. Even if prayers do nothing, it's nice to be forced to sit in silence and remember all of the people who were previously in your life and give them a moment of thought.

Disclaimer: I am not telling people they should go to church moreso wondering if anyone else ever does it and if they also think it's dope or if they think it's whack and have other alternatives for keeping their spiritual/faithful side in check.
 
Religion can be a great thing, it helps a ton of people, but unfortunately it gets extremely abused.
 
Def has good things and bad things. I think it depends on the place and how it's applied. There are plenty of places where its about coming together as community. There are also a lot of places that are kind of filled with hate and pushing it.

Some really genuinely good people that go to church, and plenty of hypochristian times that just just people in the community and their church.

I really don't have many fond memories of church but the Christian camp i went to from 6 to 14 years old was pretty awesome. Beautiful place. Even the campfires at night all seeing the religious songs together against the silence over the lake.

I think too many people use religion to absolve themselves of actually needing to be a good person. They go to church on sundays and think that makes them an inherently goood person.

The churches I went to were sort of culty and a lot of people there were simply assholes with prettend morality.

I think you you are and what church you go to makes a huge difference. I'm all about people doing things that make them happy and feel something.

If it works for them thats great.

A lot of churches just arent that chill and have a weird tie in with sketchy politics.

Not my jam but to each their own
 
not religious anymore, but when I was a kid my mom used to take me on sundays and youth group on wednesday and saved her a ton of stress when she was in school. Also went on a lot of fun and helpful trips that put me around good people, and shaped my views as a kid. Also they provide free food and drinks and stuff to low income communities. I think religion has some benefits and helps people out, but megachurches get suck an egg. Depends on the person, but I think they help out communities when they need it, but f*ck those megachurches taking advantage of the people.
 
my beef with religion is that its used for power. its been weaponized and used to murder and push agendas across the globe for thousands of years now. its a loophole to get out of taxes. its used to create laws that favor specific groups, etc. its used to fear mongering and polarization.
 
Going to church is good. I think the teachings of Jesus are more important that the formalities of going to Church, but I still go every week. I guess I'm like the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket. Keep at it.

#thugasscatholicshitskigang
 
Church got a lot better when I started going to one that was not the one I grew up in. Now I go every week except when I can’t and then I still listen to the sermon recording. Also, make sure it’s not republican Jesus that is preached, that helped a lot too.
 
To me the religion side of church is complete bullshit. I guess community side of it is good. They also help poor people so I guess that's good.

Usually I don't care if someone is religious or not, but people who bring their religion into everything and base everything they do on a 2000 year old bedtime story can piss me off.
 
14612326:JalmarKalmar said:
To me the religion side of church is complete bullshit. I guess community side of it is good. They also help poor people so I guess that's good.

Usually I don't care if someone is religious or not, but people who bring their religion into everything and base everything they do on a 2000 year old bedtime story can piss me off.

I was listening to some gregorian stuff on yt and the comments section was full of people taking about their problems and almost everybody said something like “please pray for me in these pressing times” like you need to figure your shit out, nobody’s helping you for shit in a YouTube comments section. Religion is a net benefit on society I think but the people who don’t do anything to better their lives and just hope for divine intervention kinda suck.
 
14612334:Rock_Inhabitant said:
I was listening to some gregorian stuff on yt and the comments section was full of people taking about their problems and almost everybody said something like “please pray for me in these pressing times” like you need to figure your shit out, nobody’s helping you for shit in a YouTube comments section. Religion is a net benefit on society I think but the people who don’t do anything to better their lives and just hope for divine intervention kinda suck.

Praying for someone doesn't work anyway. Something that is not real can't save you.
 
My problem is all the kid fucking. There's good evidence the Vatican helps enable it and sweep it under the rug. Imo all church attendees are accomplices. The same as if you are donating to ISIS.

I've always wanted to start a church though, so I could take 10% of a bunch of idiots money then buy a bunch of Honda Groms and ride them around illegally with my idiot friends. Joel Osteen is kinda a legend in that front.
 
people that dislike religion are generally the most hateful and insufferable people i've met (in my experience) (universally true)
 
14612347:SteezyYeeter said:
people that dislike religion are generally the most hateful and insufferable people i've met (in my experience) (universally true)

I wouldn't say that because religion has a bad name for a good reason. You are thinking of people who lack the ability to possess faith at all and don't believe that their spiritual side is important. Those people are usually nihilists and are extremely pessimistic about everything which is a miserable way to live life (by definition).

I have many friends who are atheists but still possess spirituality by just believing that other things are "god". Like to somebody nature can just be god, for a lot of physicists entropy itself is God, but stuff like that can kind of nurture that side of your life while also not participating in organized religion.

And even for religious people, you don't need to church to validate your relationship with "god", its an individual thing and in the end no matter what you believe, the ability to believe at all in something (even if it's believing in yourself) is super valuable in life IMO
 
14612359:Farmville420 said:
I wouldn't say that because religion has a bad name for a good reason. You are thinking of people who lack the ability to possess faith at all and don't believe that their spiritual side is important. Those people are usually nihilists and are extremely pessimistic about everything which is a miserable way to live life (by definition).

I have many friends who are atheists but still possess spirituality by just believing that other things are "god". Like to somebody nature can just be god, for a lot of physicists entropy itself is God, but stuff like that can kind of nurture that side of your life while also not participating in organized religion.

And even for religious people, you don't need to church to validate your relationship with "god", its an individual thing and in the end no matter what you believe, the ability to believe at all in something (even if it's believing in yourself) is super valuable in life IMO

Some of the least spiritual people I have met are Christians ironically. Faith can become a series of formalities like prayer before eating, a way of socializing as an adult, or a framework for political ideology and all three push actual spirituality to the side.
 
14612361:r00kie said:
Some of the least spiritual people I have met are Christians ironically. Faith can become a series of formalities like prayer before eating, a way of socializing as an adult, or a framework for political ideology and all three push actual spirituality to the side.

100% and its pretty sad honestly
 
Grew up going to UCC churches and it deff made a huge impact on my life. Don't go super frequently anymore but I try to go when I can.

Love God, Love Others, Love Yourself.
 
14612359:Farmville420 said:
Those people are usually nihilists and are extremely pessimistic about everything which is a miserable way to live life (by definition).

Nihilism has nothing to do with happiness or sadness. Its not "a miserable way to live life by definition" that's just like your opinion, man.

Linked is an interesting article I read about Nihilism incase you want to read something non-fiction. It explains in depth why you are wrong.

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/what-nihilism-is-not/
 
14612378:Lenny- said:
Nihilism has nothing to do with happiness or sadness. Its not "a miserable way to live life by definition" that's just like your opinion, man.

Linked is an interesting article I read about Nihilism incase you want to read something non-fiction. It explains in depth why you are wrong.

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/what-nihilism-is-not/

Nihilism is commonly very misunderstood. It's not the worst possible way to look at life.
 
14612378:Lenny- said:
Nihilism has nothing to do with happiness or sadness. Its not "a miserable way to live life by definition" that's just like your opinion, man.

Linked is an interesting article I read about Nihilism incase you want to read something non-fiction. It explains in depth why you are wrong.

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/what-nihilism-is-not/

I don't really read fiction (Assuming that you're implying the bible is fiction, which I don't read) , but I also don't read Nolen Gertz because I don't actually care that by technicality "believing in nothing is believing in something". Also the reason nihilism and pessimism are mixed up is because often times nihilists ARE pessimists. And if you think that's not the case then that's fine, but you also need to understand that you are the minority.

And if that's valuable to you that's great, and I'm not against anything in that article. The way he writes is pretty much identical to religious texts and treats "nothingness" like god, which is almost identical to a post I just made in this thread lmao
 
14612383:Farmville420 said:
I don't really read fiction (Assuming that you're implying the bible is fiction, which I don't read) , but I also don't read Nolen Gertz because I don't actually care that by technicality "believing in nothing is believing in something". Also the reason nihilism and pessimism are mixed up is because often times nihilists ARE pessimists. And if you think that's not the case then that's fine, but you also need to understand that you are the minority.

And if that's valuable to you that's great, and I'm not against anything in that article. The way he writes is pretty much identical to religious texts and treats "nothingness" like god, which is almost identical to a post I just made in this thread lmao

read the bible
 
not for me. I like the "I find god in other places" kinda, but not really sure where Im even at with god. only time i feel something bigger than me is when Im in nature and im kinda fine just leaving it at that. its more just an erratic universe that Im finding my way in
 
14612381:JalmarKalmar said:
Nihilism is commonly very misunderstood. It's not the worst possible way to look at life.

Its the most realistic approach to life. Ive adopted existential nihilism and it really works for me. You can distance yourself from expectations and let things roll off your back easier.

Also because I should have died 7 times over. Real shit like appendix bursting, 1 ton boulder crashing an arms length and a depression so bad a suicide attempt was made just to name a few. Truly the universe doesnt give a fuck. My advice is Dont look for artificial meaning in everything; bring meaning to something instead.
 
14612307:SteezyYeeter said:
also I helped my friend to convert to Catholicism last year ?

crusades were valid as fuccc

A bunch of the crusaders were literally cannibals dude, and they were fought because Europeans were poor and wanted to steal wealth from the Middle East
 
14612520:hi_vis360 said:
A bunch of the crusaders were literally cannibals dude, and they were fought because Europeans were poor and wanted to steal wealth from the Middle East

cannibals ? rest of the sentence is valid tho
 
It seems there's a lot of people who are "spiritual" or think that Church provides good morals and a good community, which is great and true, but the reality is is that there's a lot more truth behind the "2000 year old bedtime stories" than most people think. Much of what has been said is true, religion is often used as a method of control and power, the crusades were a big no no, and yes it can often seem, and be, very culty. However, religion is truly just how people try to organize around the cultural movement stemming from what was written down long ago, but the reason many people are a part of it is because there is an underlying truth. That truth is that Jesus Christ really did sacrifice himself upon the cross, and God is real, and he really does love us.

Many will try and argue that there's no true evidence for God, and so therefore He does not exist, but in this they fail to acknowledge that there is also no evidence for the contrary, or any evidence pointing towards any other theory. In fact, the argument that everything comes from nothing (Big Bang) is far less logical than an argument for God. It defies all evidence of what we know to be true in our world, which is that life comes from other life. There is also something to be said about how the order and design of our universe works too cohesively together to be a coincidence, so its more likely that whatever being created the universe is an intelligent creator. There will never be 100% evidence of any theory of creation, so our only option is to believe in the most likely theory.

Again this line of judgement is used when speculating the validity of Jesus Christ. While there's no real historical evidence of Jesus of Nazareth's existence besides the Gospels (which many claim to be fabricated by Constantine in order to maintain control over his empire), there is extra-biblical documents describing the martyr of at least 3 apostles dated before the existence of Constantine, and obviously what is written in the bible about the death and suffering the apostles endured. Nobody would believe a lie to their death, and the apostles had everything to lose and nothing to gain from attesting to the resurrection of Christ. It is very reasonable to believe that Jesus did sacrifice himself on the cross and rise from the dead. He did this because He loved us. He foresaw his death and foresaw the betrayal of Judas and Peter towards him, yet still died the death Peter and Judas deserved because of their direct betrayal towards the living God, Jesus Christ. He knew they would betray Him, and He knew that we too would continue to betray Him, yet He died for our betrayals anyways simply because He loves us. We didn't do anything to deserve His love yet we have it anyway, and that is why God is worth worshipping.

Repent and Believe in the Gospel.
 
14612578:Y_Guy said:
It seems there's a lot of people who are "spiritual" or think that Church provides good morals and a good community, which is great and true, but the reality is is that there's a lot more truth behind the "2000 year old bedtime stories" than most people think. Much of what has been said is true, religion is often used as a method of control and power, the crusades were a big no no, and yes it can often seem, and be, very culty. However, religion is truly just how people try to organize around the cultural movement stemming from what was written down long ago, but the reason many people are a part of it is because there is an underlying truth. That truth is that Jesus Christ really did sacrifice himself upon the cross, and God is real, and he really does love us.

Many will try and argue that there's no true evidence for God, and so therefore He does not exist, but in this they fail to acknowledge that there is also no evidence for the contrary, or any evidence pointing towards any other theory. In fact, the argument that everything comes from nothing (Big Bang) is far less logical than an argument for God. It defies all evidence of what we know to be true in our world, which is that life comes from other life. There is also something to be said about how the order and design of our universe works too cohesively together to be a coincidence, so its more likely that whatever being created the universe is an intelligent creator. There will never be 100% evidence of any theory of creation, so our only option is to believe in the most likely theory.

Again this line of judgement is used when speculating the validity of Jesus Christ. While there's no real historical evidence of Jesus of Nazareth's existence besides the Gospels (which many claim to be fabricated by Constantine in order to maintain control over his empire), there is extra-biblical documents describing the martyr of at least 3 apostles dated before the existence of Constantine, and obviously what is written in the bible about the death and suffering the apostles endured. Nobody would believe a lie to their death, and the apostles had everything to lose and nothing to gain from attesting to the resurrection of Christ. It is very reasonable to believe that Jesus did sacrifice himself on the cross and rise from the dead. He did this because He loved us. He foresaw his death and foresaw the betrayal of Judas and Peter towards him, yet still died the death Peter and Judas deserved because of their direct betrayal towards the living God, Jesus Christ. He knew they would betray Him, and He knew that we too would continue to betray Him, yet He died for our betrayals anyways simply because He loves us. We didn't do anything to deserve His love yet we have it anyway, and that is why God is worth worshipping.

Repent and Believe in the Gospel.

You really say that only option is to believe in the most likely theory and then say that big bang is less logical than some magical thing?

Read some science books.

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You really created an account just post that?

PS. I don'y know why I care.

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14612581:JalmarKalmar said:
You really say that only option is to believe in the most likely theory and then say that big bang is less logical than some magical thing?

Read some science books.

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You really created an account just post that?

PS. I don'y know why I care.

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There's nothing in science that supports the big bang theory. The only reason people suggest that science would support the big bang theory is because they know that science is true and then draw the conclusion that it contradicts what is written in Genesis, but scientific evidence and what is written in Genesis are mutually exclusive. I fully acknowledge the existence of dinosaurs and human evolution, I'm not stupid, but simply because this is not mentioned in the Bible does not mean this fact is a measure of the Bible's validity and the existence of God. Both can be true, and the reason is because these things aren't included in the Bible because they're not relevant to what the Bible communicates. The purpose of the Bible is to reveal who God is and what He's about, not how he works. "The Lord works in mysterious ways" is a very true statement because it's never revealed to us, probably because it's beyond our comprehension.

Also, it should be said that we as humans have a natural tendency to believe in a creator, and consistently have throughout all of human existence. The world around us is proof that it is more likely than not that we have an intelligent creator, and even remote tribal societies who have never had contact with the rest of the world see this.

Also its not far fetched to believe in a "magical" being when you yourself believe in a magical explosion that created the entire universe.
 
14612587:Y_Guy said:
There's nothing in science that supports the big bang theory. The only reason people suggest that science would support the big bang theory is because they know that science is true and then draw the conclusion that it contradicts what is written in Genesis, but scientific evidence and what is written in Genesis are mutually exclusive. I fully acknowledge the existence of dinosaurs and human evolution, I'm not stupid, but simply because this is not mentioned in the Bible does not mean this fact is a measure of the Bible's validity and the existence of God. Both can be true, and the reason is because these things aren't included in the Bible because they're not relevant to what the Bible communicates. The purpose of the Bible is to reveal who God is and what He's about, not how he works. "The Lord works in mysterious ways" is a very true statement because it's never revealed to us, probably because it's beyond our comprehension.

Also, it should be said that we as humans have a natural tendency to believe in a creator, and consistently have throughout all of human existence. The world around us is proof that it is more likely than not that we have an intelligent creator, and even remote tribal societies who have never had contact with the rest of the world see this.

Also its not far fetched to believe in a "magical" being when you yourself believe in a magical explosion that created the entire universe.

There are actually millions of publications proving the big bang theory is actually true. The thing you can't prove is what happened before it, or what caused it, since time and space did not exist. So you're not wrong, it could have been god, but it also could have been a trillion different things as well. No one knows what existed before the universe and it is impossible to know because we can't actually measure anything that exists without time.
 
14612587:Y_Guy said:
There's nothing in science that supports the big bang theory. The only reason people suggest that science would support the big bang theory is because they know that science is true and then draw the conclusion that it contradicts what is written in Genesis, but scientific evidence and what is written in Genesis are mutually exclusive. I fully acknowledge the existence of dinosaurs and human evolution, I'm not stupid, but simply because this is not mentioned in the Bible does not mean this fact is a measure of the Bible's validity and the existence of God. Both can be true, and the reason is because these things aren't included in the Bible because they're not relevant to what the Bible communicates. The purpose of the Bible is to reveal who God is and what He's about, not how he works. "The Lord works in mysterious ways" is a very true statement because it's never revealed to us, probably because it's beyond our comprehension.

Also, it should be said that we as humans have a natural tendency to believe in a creator, and consistently have throughout all of human existence. The world around us is proof that it is more likely than not that we have an intelligent creator, and even remote tribal societies who have never had contact with the rest of the world see this.

Also its not far fetched to believe in a "magical" being when you yourself believe in a magical explosion that created the entire universe.

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14612587:Y_Guy said:
There's nothing in science that supports the big bang theory. The only reason people suggest that science would support the big bang theory is because they know that science is true and then draw the conclusion that it contradicts what is written in Genesis, but scientific evidence and what is written in Genesis are mutually exclusive. I fully acknowledge the existence of dinosaurs and human evolution, I'm not stupid, but simply because this is not mentioned in the Bible does not mean this fact is a measure of the Bible's validity and the existence of God. Both can be true, and the reason is because these things aren't included in the Bible because they're not relevant to what the Bible communicates. The purpose of the Bible is to reveal who God is and what He's about, not how he works. "The Lord works in mysterious ways" is a very true statement because it's never revealed to us, probably because it's beyond our comprehension.

Also, it should be said that we as humans have a natural tendency to believe in a creator, and consistently have throughout all of human existence. The world around us is proof that it is more likely than not that we have an intelligent creator, and even remote tribal societies who have never had contact with the rest of the world see this.

Also its not far fetched to believe in a "magical" being when you yourself believe in a magical explosion that created the entire universe.

I don't have enough smart sounding words in my english vocalbulary to write a proper answer.

I'm not really trying to say that science is 100% right, I'm saying that science is lot less wrong.

Why would your religion be the right one from the thousands of other religions and mythologies? What if Norse mythology is actually the right one instead of your god and the wine hippie?
 
14612589:Farmville420 said:
There are actually millions of publications proving the big bang theory is actually true. The thing you can't prove is what happened before it, or what caused it, since time and space did not exist. So you're not wrong, it could have been god, but it also could have been a trillion different things as well. No one knows what existed before the universe and it is impossible to know because we can't actually measure anything that exists without time.

Well even if that's true, would it not be reasonable to call whatever force that caused the Big Bang, God? Yes it's true that we don't exactly know what that is or what it looks like, but we also don't know exactly what God is or what He looks like (beyond that He's an enternal being).

Personally, I base my faith through Christ first since he essentially validated the Jewish belief as well as what the prophets said prior to His existence on Earth. So pretty much because I believe in what the Apostles died and were tortured over, I therefore believe in Jesus, and therefore believe in the Old Testament and what it says about creation. Additionally my belief happens to be backed up by whatever points I've already made.

Ultimately, I don't find the Big Bang theory or any scientific theory to be contradictory of God's existence based on this logic. Hope this helps you understand my perspective.
 
14612578:Y_Guy said:
It seems there's a lot of people who are "spiritual" or think that Church provides good morals and a good community, which is great and true, but the reality is is that there's a lot more truth behind the "2000 year old bedtime stories" than most people think. Much of what has been said is true, religion is often used as a method of control and power, the crusades were a big no no, and yes it can often seem, and be, very culty. However, religion is truly just how people try to organize around the cultural movement stemming from what was written down long ago, but the reason many people are a part of it is because there is an underlying truth. That truth is that Jesus Christ really did sacrifice himself upon the cross, and God is real, and he really does love us.

Many will try and argue that there's no true evidence for God, and so therefore He does not exist, but in this they fail to acknowledge that there is also no evidence for the contrary, or any evidence pointing towards any other theory. In fact, the argument that everything comes from nothing (Big Bang) is far less logical than an argument for God. It defies all evidence of what we know to be true in our world, which is that life comes from other life. There is also something to be said about how the order and design of our universe works too cohesively together to be a coincidence, so its more likely that whatever being created the universe is an intelligent creator. There will never be 100% evidence of any theory of creation, so our only option is to believe in the most likely theory.

Again this line of judgement is used when speculating the validity of Jesus Christ. While there's no real historical evidence of Jesus of Nazareth's existence besides the Gospels (which many claim to be fabricated by Constantine in order to maintain control over his empire), there is extra-biblical documents describing the martyr of at least 3 apostles dated before the existence of Constantine, and obviously what is written in the bible about the death and suffering the apostles endured. Nobody would believe a lie to their death, and the apostles had everything to lose and nothing to gain from attesting to the resurrection of Christ. It is very reasonable to believe that Jesus did sacrifice himself on the cross and rise from the dead. He did this because He loved us. He foresaw his death and foresaw the betrayal of Judas and Peter towards him, yet still died the death Peter and Judas deserved because of their direct betrayal towards the living God, Jesus Christ. He knew they would betray Him, and He knew that we too would continue to betray Him, yet He died for our betrayals anyways simply because He loves us. We didn't do anything to deserve His love yet we have it anyway, and that is why God is worth worshipping.

Repent and Believe in the Gospel.

You made a new account just to post that?
 
14612591:JalmarKalmar said:
I don't have enough smart sounding words in my english vocalbulary to write a proper answer.

I'm not really trying to say that science is 100% right, I'm saying that science is lot less wrong.

Why would your religion be the right one from the thousands of other religions and mythologies? What if Norse mythology is actually the right one instead of your god and the wine hippie

Personally the reason why I choose to put my faith in Christ is because there is much more historical evidence and eye witness testimonies than any other religion in existence. Additionally, Islam gives credit to Jesus as a prophet and believe what the Bible says, but don't interpret it the same way (to my knowledge). Islam fails to acknowledge that their "prophet" (a person who speaks the word of God, so therefore what they say cannot be denied) claimed to be God in human form. Fully man and yet fully God. In John 10:30 Jesus says, "I and the Father are one". After this the jews picked up stones and tried to stone him for blasphemy, so it is abundantly clear that Jesus claimed to be God.

As for other religions such as norse mythology and such, those were created through an acknowledgement that there is evidence in our world that there is likely an intelligent creator. They had no signs to point to what that was so they kind of made things up to help explain the world around them. At least that's my interpretation of what happened, idk i could be slightly wrong about that.
 
14612595:theabortionator said:
You made a new account just to post that?

No i made a new account because I didn't feel that my old account and what I had posted there still reflected who I am today. I just thought it would be good to make it abundantly clear who I am and what I stand for.
 
notice how you guys are just clowning and belittling his (clearly well thought out) opinions while he's taking the time to respectfully write back in full. kinda shows you which side is the better one.
 
14612598:Y_Guy said:
they kind of MADE THINGS UP to help explain the world around them.

Every single religion in a nutshell.

(I might have taken that out of context, but I don't think it really matters in this case because I haven't seen any evidence of intelligent creator)
 
14612648:JalmarKalmar said:
Every single religion in a nutshell.

(I might have taken that out of context, but I don't think it really matters in this case because I haven't seen any evidence of intelligent creator)

Free Will is evidence of a intelligent creator
 
14612664:JalmarKalmar said:

you agree that both of us have free will right? so we jus evolved from bacterias and shit than all we would be was machines that have 1 objective which is to survive type shi gangily... but we have freewill and in my opinion that means there has to be a intelligent creator behind us.

+ for something to happen there has to be a cause; so there had to be a cause behind the big bang and for me the most probable cause is that it had to be god behind it.
 
14612665:fabbe said:
you agree that both of us have free will right? so we jus evolved from bacterias and shit than all we would be was machines that have 1 objective which is to survive type shi gangily... but we have freewill and in my opinion that means there has to be a intelligent creator behind us.

+ for something to happen there has to be a cause; so there had to be a cause behind the big bang and for me the most probable cause is that it had to be god behind it.

I think most important objective In human life is survival, If it wasn't we would have been dead for years already or human population would be lot smaller.

I'm not sure if I understood your use of "cause" correctly, but quantum mechanics state that everything doesn't have deterministic causes, so maybe free will and consciousness was just a tragic random misstep in evolution. I don't believe that big bang came from nothing though. That just sound stupid (partly because it is impossible to think about nothing), I feel like it had to come from something. That something might or might not be solved in our life time. Saying that behind everything is intelligent creator sounds more like filling gaps in current knowledge instead of actual evidence of god type of thing.

Jag älskar fabbe gangily fabbily.
 
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