Chronic wide vs. Karma vs. Trouble Maker

[DiamondC]

so im looking for new skis and i wana now ur opinion on which of the three you would take cuz this is wat ive narrowed it down too

thanksss

 

[DiamondC]

i need all the help i can get, but im 6'0 165 and i ride about 60% park, 40% big mountain and groomers

 

[jibyourmom]

the troublemakers are to skinny for big mountain

 

[mw1235]

chronic wide all the way. runner up is karma. chronic wides are stiffer, and they both have about the same waist.

 

[HiTz]

first off wides are not stiffer than karmas...and karmas kick the shit out of the wides as an overall ski...go karmas, volkl is bombproof, i love mine and ive skied the wides and the karmas and id take my karmas any day over the wides

 

[Mex_LineJib^a]

^ dude, wides are a solid ski too specially if he's gonna ride 60% park. plus the price tag on wides is gonna be way cheaper!

 

[DiamondC]

yeah thats the thing, if i get karmas im getting the 07's and if i get wides im getting last years for only 275. but idk, if the karmas a better ski then i guess ill spend the extra dough...

 

[mw1235]

karmas are not stiffer. it may be about equal, but they are not stiffer than wides. karmas are alot heavier too

 

[skier_boy26]

if youre talking about any big mountain that is actually big mountain than the best choice is probably the karma out of those 3. Big Trouble would be a great choice too because you get park performance, but good big mtn capabilities. BCs wouldnt be bad either.

 

[chronic_rider]

Get wides, they will be better if u ski 60 park, and they kill everywhere, light, softer than karmas

 

[fouldsys]

a 1 foot section of edge fell out of my dogens after only like 25 days of skiing and they chipped like there was no tommorow

 

[HiTz]

thats the dodgen...thats the only exception to my "volkl is bombproof" statement becuz the dodgen is a crappy ski...but i hit rocks trees anything BC has to offer to fuck ur skis up and my karmas r still rockin everything...and my gotomas r holding up amazing too

 

[TheBigD]

karmas are the best out of that group for everything and anything out of that group

 

[MALONE]

Karmas Next years buy em from me

 

[Liam.KC]

karmas are amaazing. i ride park and big/all mountain 50/50 and i love them. i broke the bases on a screw on a box but im getting them again.

 

[Sonny88]

get the chronics. i just bought a pair 2 weeks ago. where are they for $275 anyway?

 

[mw1235]

everywhere.

 

[DiamondC]

when i say big mountain im talking about east coast which is not that big, so prolly snowfields

 

[fuckyocouch]

karmas will rock line in the construction ive hit some burly ass rocks on mine and havent had to p-tex yet. peace

 

[LineAddiction9]

I own all three and the chronic wides are the best for sure!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[skoganskier101]

go wides

 

[shawnm1260]

people these days throw around the term bigmountain way to much, my guess is that he isnt even talking about backcountry... just steep runs inbounds

 

[caro.dillon]

the karmas are so dope, if you look at them in the right light, you can see the outline of a buddha and a boudi tree

 

[MarkieR]

karmas own. i might consider getting the chronic blend instead of the karma, but not the chronin wide, no way.

 

[strongmark]

youre a moron.

lines blow, ive skiied pretty much every pair since 02-03, and theyre all soft as shit. karmas are sick, volkls are sick, except dogens since theyre made in china. and they dont delaminate after 3 days skiing, which is more than i can say about the three pairs of lines i had, all of em delaminating within a month or two.

 

[mw1235]

I have new chronics, and they are stiffer than any skis i have skiid. Maybe youre heavier, I am light. And you two are the only people I have seen/heard who say chronics are soft.

 

[Petey.]

i am personally not a real fan of dynastars twin-tips and the same goes for the chronics...so ill go with the karmas

 

[DiamondC]

have u tried the chronic wide??

 

[poofartpee]

chronic wide prob the best folowed after dynastar

 

[MarkieR]

yeahh. they are alright, but they lack the life of the karma. the chronic blend, however, is close to as lively, but it still isn't as strong. the only reason i say the chronic blend is on par with the karma is on account of the extra width.

 

[poofartpee]

if u like stiff skis or way alot go karma

 

[fuckyocouch]

one more thing is the karmas rip at all speeds and have wicked pop.

 

[DiamondC]

yeah idk, how are trouble makers when shredding all mtn cuz i like to haul ass and also, has anyone skiied them on moguls

 

[Luc.]

yeh i completly agree with you...chronicsa re extremly stiff especially right out of the plastic(obviously) but thats partly why i love them so...(i weighed around 160 last time i skied them)

 

[DiamondC]

yeah i dont think i want a stiff ski, i think im gonna go with the tm's. how do they shred?

 

[mw1235]

yeah TM's are fairly soft, a good ski, but go for the new 06/07 ones, they have redesigned them with new edges/bases and they should be sick. if you get an older model, make sure you watch out for the edge problems..

 

[skoganskier101]

my 04-05 skogens arent soft and they really are a great ski, there perfect for me because i live on the ice coast so they can handle hardpack and groomers but there also great for powder, there just not tanks like a made'n' ak or anything

 

[DiamondC]

t.m.s it is, karmas are sick but i want a softer ski and they fixed the edge problem on the t.m. so it should be ill. thanks ppls