Canyons BC

skiminnesota

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Hey NS,

My brother and I are new in town, its our first season and we're looking for anyone to hit some sidecountry at the canyons with. We have all the gear and know how to use it. We do not however have a great deal of familiarity with the terrain, etc.

My own personal risk tolerance is not high enough to ski square top or anything like that right now, but if anyone wouldnt mind showing a couple of new people around some of the mellow stuff canyons has out the 99 gate hit me up!

dont have AT gear, so booting or slowshoeing is our only option unfortunately.
 
I ski Canyons as my home mtn and know my way around a little bit. Im Avy 1 and know how to use my stuff. Wouldnt mind skiing some mellow aspens once things settle down, but its still hairtrigger out there right now
 
Will only get worse heading into the weekend with rapid warming, but if things settle down a bit in the next couple weeks maybe we can venture out
 
PLEASE don't consider going out of the gates up their at this point. With the temps and the snowpack the way they have been, theres a damn good chance its going to slide. Also, your avy gear wont save you from trauma.. Give it a little bit, then im sure he^ will take ya out and show you the ropes.
 
I'm sorry, but anyone going out into the backcountry this year is a fucking idiot. The boys down at the Utah Avalanche Center are calling this a once in a lifetime year because of how gnarly everything is.

If you value your life, stay inside those pearly gates.
 
Utter fuckin bullshitI'm not saying the snow pack isn't dicey, but plenty of "idiots" go out most everyday including them "idiots" who generate those forecasts.

do you not read the observations?

plenty of skilled bc travelers understand the risks and posess the routefinding and terrain choice skills

to attempt to recreate in the bc safely.

do you think avvy classes have been canceled for the season because it's to dangerous to go out and conduct them?

quite the contrary this is the best season in a decade to get out and observe instabilities, dig pits, get a feel for test slopes, find previously avalanchued bed surfaces or train yourself to have the discipline and ability to judge your slope angles and consequences of potential mistakes.

If you bother to read the reports they clearly states to the effect of those without these above mentioned skills should refrain.

Well you don't acquire those skills by reading reports or skiing inside the gates or hiding under your bed

We are not idiots we are skiers who choose to test our skills and attempt to become more skilled

at our passions.

that being said this is one of the best seasons ever to learn, yes the risks are much higher and margins for error less but that doesn't mean people are idiots.

please refrain from misinformation hype and calling people who have spent a lot of time and energy

trying to perfect these skills idiots

while there are no 100% scenarios of safety, hell I watched a canyons patroller go for a 15k ride

on box elder peak on a low danger day in the middle of a low danger week, several seasons ago avalanches are not random acts of nature that can appear out of no where.

also if you think you are 100% safe inbounds you need to study a bit.

If you do decide to be an idiot please try and educate you and your partners and carry all gear necessary to be able to perform companion self rescue and strong 1st aid skills
 
while I agree with most of what you said, I still wouldn't recommend him going OB right now, especially where he was looking. He's saying he wants to go up off of 9990, one of the most avalanche prone areas this season, with little to no backcountry experience. While it may be a good season to learn, it isn't a good season to be skiing where he is thinking. Digging pits on low angle aspects and staying in the trees this year is a great idea, but where off of 9990 would you recommend him doing this sort of thing? Most of the BC off of 99 is perfect for slides, and that has been shown this season with a couple of major slides already and some deaths. In my opinion the risks are far greater than the rewards right now, unless you REALLY know what you are doing, or if you are sticking to the trees/low angles.
 
the outlyin areas from the cottonwoods mill creek wasatch back etc are notoriously and traditionallymore dangerous due to lower snowpack depths and should demand more respect or cauition

my gripe is with dumbshits who do not know wtf they are talking about calling those who choose to enter the bc "idiots"

 
There's still safe BC lines to be had, even this year. While conditions have restricted access to some of the stuff I'd like to ski, it's been a phenomenal year to learn. Doubt I'll leave the Can gates this weekend if the warming does what I think it'll do to things, but I'll probably run some beacon practice in the park Saturday or Sunday up at Redpine. If you see the teal jacket, stop and say hey.
 
Absolutely, I agree - if you know what you're doing and are experienced, then go for it. However, this guy has never been out before and its his first season here.

Thats why I advised against it.
 
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