i really thought there would be plenty of reviews and content on these things by now but all i can find are the beginning of season stuff from ski essentials and others. anyone see anything more? specifically interested in the AK 121 but i’d be satisfied with anything on any of them. thanks.
Candide skis, any word on these?
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sindreplassen
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shit quality
N41v131355
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14594970:sindreplassen said:
if i recall correctly, they are pressed on atomic plant. How can they be shit quality?
sindreplassen
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14594972:N41v131355 said:
dude at my local literally broke his ski in half
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14595010:Voyage86 said:
not even a crash, the top sheet just started peeling off
topic:Voyage86 said:
Ive used my 121 3 times, and its probably my new favoruite ski.
I bought the AK121 and the Magic J UL this winter, and have skiied the 121 in 2-3 feet powder in the woods, and around soft groomers and sidehits. And yes it is flat camber, but it 100% feels like fully rockered. I have the ARG 2 UL, which is a reverse camber reverse sidecut ski, and the ak121 almost feels like that when it comes to sufiness. If its icy, then you will just start sliding with no grip, which according to me at least, is really hilarous.
Its decently stiff, but still feels like a wheeliemachine because of the rocker.
My new favourite ski I think. Havent tried the Magic J UL yet, but that is a complete noodle in the tip and tail.
Because of the 121s stiffness combined with all that rocker, it feels surprisingly versatile, just not on hard groomers. Also depens how much you care about carving compared to "drifting".
Just ask me questions if u want
**This post was edited on Mar 1st 2024 at 11:02:53am
14595061:Ripline said:
and they float well at the candide line? how hard can you push the shovels in pow or do you need to ski them pretty centered? and finally do they get pushed around in crud? they are only 1950 grand right? so wondering if they don’t charge well because of the low weight.
14595127:Voyage86 said:
Hmm I only skied them in life 3 feet, and felt great. supersurfy and easy to throw snowy turns with. Great in the trees.
I chose the candide line simply cause I enjoy riding switch and landing switch.
The regular line is probably even better for pure powderskiing.
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14595169:animator said:
Too light, a bit too soft…
Not a bad ski, but it can’t hammer like the other skis in its category, and it doesn’t have the pop like the old CT2.0 or Rocker2 100
Have some BC 111s 186cm. Had been skiing on the Faction CT 3.0s for like 5ish seasons.
The Candide skis ski way differently, which kind of threw me off the first few days out on them. Not sure how to explain it, and part of it was probably because my old skis had lost some pop and hadn't been tuned in while, and I went from Shifts with tons of play between my boots and the skis to Pivots that are so locked in , but I felt like I was over turning/over popping with them and almost getting thrown around?
Now after ~10 days on them I do really like them, they are really stiff and really light and have skied really well in everything from park and groomers, to backcountry. You can really let em run in any snow and terrain, and are really stable.
The Candide skis ski way differently, which kind of threw me off the first few days out on them. Not sure how to explain it, and part of it was probably because my old skis had lost some pop and hadn't been tuned in while, and I went from Shifts with tons of play between my boots and the skis to Pivots that are so locked in , but I felt like I was over turning/over popping with them and almost getting thrown around?
Now after ~10 days on them I do really like them, they are really stiff and really light and have skied really well in everything from park and groomers, to backcountry. You can really let em run in any snow and terrain, and are really stable.
14595254:Voyage86 said:
They float well, they have a ton of rocker skiing powder and through variable snow with the rocker feels like what they were made for. But you can still carve them pretty well for a 110mm+ ski under foot, they are going to be my everyday ski from now on.
You have to ski them more centered/balanced than a more traditional mounted ski but since they are so stiff I feel like I have to be more on top of them/more forward then the older faction models.
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14595273:t_murrs said:
Interesting... Have you tried later CT 3.0 versions, like from 21, 22? They were much stiffer than first years.
14595365:N41v131355 said:
I actually skied on 3 pairs of the old faction models, the old black ones with the big block lettering which were 112 underfoot, then some of the maroon ones that were 108 underfoot I think, and then some of the white and green ones which were the last model year and 112 underfoot as well, shout out to factions warranty department lol.
I do think the BC 111s feel stiffer than the last model year CT 3.0, and are definitely lighter. They really don't feel like any other ski I have had, but so far I like them and have more fun on them every time I take them out. I think they would make a good daily ski or fatter powder ski depending on where you live.
N41v131355
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14595393:t_murrs said:
woah, thanks for the input, that's interesting! Stiffer than latest 3.0 which are already very stout... I might want to try
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14606777:extremeju said:
Very much depends on resorts/terrain you ski. If you have lots of open bowls/fields/colours - go for 190 without any doubt. I skied CT 5.0 (which is basically the predecessor of AK121) in size 183 when I'm 178 and I was really upset I hadn't chosen 190 length.
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14606778:Voyage86 said:
Did you mean full rocker?
skidemon22
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14606866:Furlans said:
They are too light to be a serious any-day ski, and they are too soft to really jib around off of features.
They weigh less than the Armada ARW 106 UL, and are softer than… the old CT2.0 I’d say. I found the BlackOps 98 to be a better contender in this field.
I hope these issues are isolated to the Resort 101, but I would imagine that this design philosophy extends across the whole range.
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14607020:extremeju said:
Not exactly same, but my friend skis Mana 4 at -2.5 and is extremely happy with this mount point
SofaKingSick
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this prob doesn't help at all but i picked a couple of the skis up at a shop and holy fuck are they light