Caitlyn Jenner

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I honestly couldn't care less.

I just don't understand why the media is making a big fucking deal about Caitlyn being "brave."
 
Here's my opinion:

I'm the most tolerant person in society to transgender people. I give just as few fucks about what makes them special as I do what makes any other person I don't really care about different. There you go, 100% tolerance.
 
You can say it's transformed into a Ferrari and argue all you want, but it's still a Pontiac Fiero underneath...

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At the end of the day I don't care. I work with people who are part of the LGBT community and I don't treat anyone any differently.
 
13439904:.CJ. said:
I honestly couldn't care less.

I just don't understand why the media is making a big fucking deal about Caitlyn being "brave."

It is pretty brave, mostly since the media is all over her. I feel bad that she has to go thru this in the public eye which sounds pretty horrible since this is such a personal undertaking.
 
Personally...I think Bruce's problems are much worse than people thought. He is not a woman, and will never be one...its quite obvious just by looking at "her".

He has a serious mental problem which resulted in a sex change and body mutilation. The guy cut his dick off...thats just fucked up.

There is nothing "woman" about him. Maybe hes gay...ok fine who cares. BUT he had multiple children, was an olympic MENS medalist. Its quite obvious something is seriously fucked up in his mind.

Im so sick of hearing about this family. They contribute nothing to society and continue to get rich off of what the weak minded general population who has nothing better to worry about thinks.
 
honestly i got no problem with it, some people have their reasons to disagree but tbh who tf cares, it has no effect on your life. some people have said "he was born a man, he should always be a man" but bottom line its what "She" wanted and when you got the money to do it like her go ahead, make yourself happy.
 
why would anyone have a problem with it? it doesn't affect anybody else, so let her do what she wants. People need to get off her back about this.
 
13439916:KravtZ said:
Personally...I think Bruce's problems are much worse than people thought. He is not a woman, and will never be one...its quite obvious just by looking at "her".

He has a serious mental problem which resulted in a sex change and body mutilation. The guy cut his dick off...thats just fucked up.

There is nothing "woman" about him. Maybe hes gay...ok fine who cares. BUT he had multiple children, was an olympic MENS medalist. Its quite obvious something is seriously fucked up in his mind.

Im so sick of hearing about this family. They contribute nothing to society and continue to get rich off of what the weak minded general population who has nothing better to worry about thinks.

TRUU
 
I honestly don't care. She's just another person like you and me and should be treated as such.
 
13439916:KravtZ said:
Personally...I think Bruce's problems are much worse than people thought. He is not a woman, and will never be one...its quite obvious just by looking at "her".

He has a serious mental problem which resulted in a sex change and body mutilation. The guy cut his dick off...thats just fucked up.

There is nothing "woman" about him. Maybe hes gay...ok fine who cares. BUT he had multiple children, was an olympic MENS medalist. Its quite obvious something is seriously fucked up in his mind.

Im so sick of hearing about this family. They contribute nothing to society and continue to get rich off of what the weak minded general population who has nothing better to worry about thinks.

Fucking kill yourself
 
13439916:KravtZ said:
Personally...I think Bruce's problems are much worse than people thought. He is not a woman, and will never be one...its quite obvious just by looking at "her".

He has a serious mental problem which resulted in a sex change and body mutilation. The guy cut his dick off...thats just fucked up.

There is nothing "woman" about him. Maybe hes gay...ok fine who cares. BUT he had multiple children, was an olympic MENS medalist. Its quite obvious something is seriously fucked up in his mind.

Im so sick of hearing about this family. They contribute nothing to society and continue to get rich off of what the weak minded general population who has nothing better to worry about thinks.

13440061:S.J.W said:
Fucking kill yourself

please do. you are nothing more than a dumbass who spews out whatever fox news tells you all day. If she wants to be a woman, let her! In no way does it affect you whatsoever. Having a sex change does not mean you have a mental illness.
 
What bothers me is every gay/lesbian/bi person I have ever met(never met anyone who's trans) just wants to be treated like a normal person and I'm very cool with that. But why are people praising this woman so much for coming out? Like, I just don't see what the big deal is. Cool the former Bruce is now Caitlyn. Why cause such a fuss when these people "just want to be treated like everyone else." It's contradicting in my opinion so if someone wants to explain this to me, feel free. I don't have anything against transgender people. I don't exactly understand it 100% but like why is this such a big deal?
 
13440067:Mingg said:
What bothers me is every gay/lesbian/bi person I have ever met(never met anyone who's trans) just wants to be treated like a normal person and I'm very cool with that. But why are people praising this woman so much for coming out? Like, I just don't see what the big deal is. Cool the former Bruce is now Caitlyn. Why cause such a fuss when these people "just want to be treated like everyone else." It's contradicting in my opinion so if someone wants to explain this to me, feel free. I don't have anything against transgender people. I don't exactly understand it 100% but like why is this such a big deal?

It's because of the stigma associated with being trans (refer to Kratz post). And with Caitlyn being in the public eye so much it could of been much easier for her to remain a man and not deal with any of the bullshit that follows coming out. Also there's never been a celebrity of this caliber who's identified as a transgender. There's people like Laverne Cox who are famous but like lets be honest, you just google who she was.

There's also a whole lot of issues that people of trans deal with, like being bashed by transaphobic people for just wanting to be themselves. In the interview Caitlyn raised most of these issues that mainstream media ignores.
 
13440074:S.J.W said:
It's because of the stigma associated with being trans (refer to Kratz post). And with Caitlyn being in the public eye so much it could of been much easier for her to remain a man and not deal with any of the bullshit that follows coming out. Also there's never been a celebrity of this caliber who's identified as a transgender. There's people like Laverne Cox who are famous but like lets be honest, you just google who she was.

There's also a whole lot of issues that people of trans deal with, like being bashed by transaphobic people for just wanting to be themselves. In the interview Caitlyn raised most of these issues that mainstream media ignores.

I gotcha. I get the media coverage and everything because the media likes to blow these kinds of things up. It just seems like this is special treatment in a way. If trans people want to feel like just another human, why is it so brave to come out? I mean, straight people aren't given awards for saying their straight. I get that it's harder to come out as being gay lesbian bi or trans, but to be feel like everyone else, wouldn't you want to be treated like everyone else?
 
gay/lesbian/straight/trans who tf cares. bottom line it will have no affect on your life whatsoever unless you let it bother you, which theres no good reason to.
 
13440075:Mingg said:
I gotcha. I get the media coverage and everything because the media likes to blow these kinds of things up. It just seems like this is special treatment in a way. If trans people want to feel like just another human, why is it so brave to come out? I mean, straight people aren't given awards for saying their straight. I get that it's harder to come out as being gay lesbian bi or trans, but to be feel like everyone else, wouldn't you want to be treated like everyone else?

just refer to Kratz post, can you imagine being a trans person and reading that. It would make you feel horrible.
 
13440079:S.J.W said:
just refer to Kratz post, can you imagine being a trans person and reading that. It would make you feel horrible.

Yeah thats really true.

It's just stupid in the sense that you shouldn't need to be brave to be yourself. You should just be able to do it without needing to feel like you have to be courageous, I guess is what I'm trying to get at. People like Kratz shouldn't matter or cause someone not to be who they are. I know thats a lot easier to say than for people to actually do. I think this is just sending a message that to come out you have to brave but really, you shouldn't need to be brave. You should be able to come out without any fear of being criticized for who you are.
 
13440086:Mingg said:
Yeah thats really true.

It's just stupid in the sense that you shouldn't need to be brave to be yourself. You should just be able to do it without needing to feel like you have to be courageous, I guess is what I'm trying to get at. People like Kratz shouldn't matter or cause someone not to be who they are. I know thats a lot easier to say than for people to actually do. I think this is just sending a message that to come out you have to brave but really, you shouldn't need to be brave. You should be able to come out without any fear of being criticized for who you are.

yeah I see what you're saying. Like coming out as LGBTQA shouldn't be "omg they're so brave" it should be like "oh that's cool dude, wanna grab a beer?" instead you have people like Kratz who think LGBTQA are lesser because they don't fit the norm of society and so when they do come out it's seen as brave. Which at this current time, it is brave to come out as LGTBQA
 
13440089:S.J.W said:
yeah I see what you're saying. Like coming out as LGBTQA shouldn't be "omg they're so brave" it should be like "oh that's cool dude, wanna grab a beer?" instead you have people like Kratz who think LGBTQA are lesser because they don't fit the norm of society and so when they do come out it's seen as brave. Which at this current time, it is brave to come out as LGTBQA

Hell yeah dude! Agreed 100%.
 
yeah i dunno, i mean i think it's a little weird she still has a dick but isn't a boy but thats about it.

other than that, no opinion, i could care less
 
13440109:stinky_pete said:
yeah i dunno, i mean i think it's a little weird she still has a dick but isn't a boy but thats about it.

other than that, no opinion, i could care less

Tru stinky, tru. totally agree :)
 
13439915:Dadcore said:
It is pretty brave, mostly since the media is all over her. I feel bad that she has to go thru this in the public eye which sounds pretty horrible since this is such a personal undertaking.

Jenner is loving every bit of the media exposure. It really has been the driving factor for his/her lively hood for close to a decade... It may actually be the reason for the transformation - more media exposure ("See Kim - I can do it too") The family has a history of making private parts of their lives public for money/exposure/fame.

The surgery Jenner and the public really needs is to cut out the media in their (Jenner/Kardashian) lives.
 
13440064:NickyToor said:
please do. you are nothing more than a dumbass who spews out whatever fox news tells you all day. If she wants to be a woman, let her! In no way does it affect you whatsoever. Having a sex change does not mean you have a mental illness.

Dr. John McHugh, the former Psychiatrist-in-Chief of John's Hopkins University, would beg to differ.
 
13439915:Dadcore said:
It is pretty brave, mostly since the media is all over her. I feel bad that she has to go thru this in the public eye which sounds pretty horrible since this is such a personal undertaking.

lol the media is always all over that family. And this just brought more attention. I could care less who wants to be what cause it doesn't affect anyone else but this is receiving way too much attention and our media is terrible.

One reason I actually freaking love NS is that we can sometimes have a mature argument on topics and can deal with mature people instead of teenagers and only use 140 characters.
 
"These people saluting Jenner for trying to become a woman are really no different than lunatics congratulating an emaciated anorexic for imagining she’s 300 pounds overweight. Both harbor harmful, destructive, and inaccurate perceptions about themselves, and both need help changing their perceptions, not their bodies."
 
13440279:RockShoxTora said:
"These people saluting Jenner for trying to become a woman are really no different than lunatics congratulating an emaciated anorexic for imagining she’s 300 pounds overweight. Both harbor harmful, destructive, and inaccurate perceptions about themselves, and both need help changing their perceptions, not their bodies."

lol you read that Bruce Jenner is not a woman article by the Blaze.

" TheBlaze is many things – a news and information website, TV network, digital radio network and small business marketplace – but above all else we are a community of people, bound together by a shared set of values: Truth. Respect. Ingenuity and Family. These values guide our passion as journalists, content creators and storytellers and are the foundation from which we interact with our audience."

At what point in that poorly written attack piece against Caitlyn Jenner was there truth, respect or ingenuity. If anything it just look likes a shit ass article made to stir controversy and bring traffic to their shit site.
 
13440112:B.Gillis said:
People care too much what everyone else in the world thinks. Likewise, people give too much shit about what others are doing. If everyone just focused on their own shit a little more this world would be a better place. Dude wants to dress like a lady then fuck it let him, as long as it's not putting anyone in harms way then who cares.

B-b-but how am i going to explain it to my kids?!?!?!?!

But yeah, let her do what she wants. Yall are just annoying as these SJW's that label everything racist/homophobic/transphobic/whatever the fuck.
 
13440286:S.J.W said:
lol you read that Bruce Jenner is not a woman article by the Blaze.

" TheBlaze is many things – a news and information website, TV network, digital radio network and small business marketplace – but above all else we are a community of people, bound together by a shared set of values: Truth. Respect. Ingenuity and Family. These values guide our passion as journalists, content creators and storytellers and are the foundation from which we interact with our audience."

At what point in that poorly written attack piece against Caitlyn Jenner was there truth, respect or ingenuity. If anything it just look likes a shit ass article made to stir controversy and bring traffic to their shit site.

I'm glad someone else saw that article! A buddy of mine sent it to me. The author was clearly predisposed to a certain opinion. And a little brash at that...

Regardless, he posed an interesting idea I hadn't thought about before which is the only reason I quoted that read. Why should the notion of transgender vs anorexia on a psychological level be treated differently.

Both pose health risks (albeit anorexia is much more dangerous; even deadly), but both stem from this warped self-perception which clearly differs from their current physical existence.
 
An attention whore flipping his dick inside out shouldn't be making national news 5 nights in a row. I'm totally cool with the LGB but it's the T that I still can't get past.
 
I'm just pissed she got the Ashe courage award or whatever over a double amputee.
 
As far as the people who think it's some crazy foreign thing there was a skier going through this on here a few years back.

Just saying.
 
13440383:Bateman said:
You won't be around next year, my trap's too severe, kickin' mad flava in ya ear?

Stamina like caitlyn jenna, the transgenda, eatin MC's for dinna
 
13440362:theabortionator said:
As far as the people who think it's some crazy foreign thing there was a skier going through this on here a few years back.

Just saying.

Now thats just absurd making a point like that, youre either with us or some white knighting homoqueersicle with feelings.
 
cue the hate.

i have nothing against gays, couldn't care less about what they do, but trans is a different thing.

my personal opinion is that its a mental health issue. if a 65 year old man thought he was a 10 year old boy and wanted to be treated as such, he would be put into a psych ward.

what is the difference then between a 65 year old man thinking he is a female. that thinking quite obviously starts in the brain, ergo mental health issue.

at the end of the day, if you are born a male, your sex will always be male. you can try and chop and change that as much as you want, you might call yourself a transfemale, but you will never be a female.
 
13440358:.lencon said:
Why is everyone saying she? It's still a he to me

Because she is the correct term. Sex and gender are two different, but closely related terms. She and he are socially defined terms and aren't rooted in biological characteristics. The correct one to use is whatever the subject prefers. Male and Female refer to the biological sex of the subject. So in this case, she is a male is a perfectly logical statement.

And to the person above me, I don't think she got her penis removed. Just had the facial surgery, hormone therapy, and a boob job I believe.
 
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