i never really liked burton stuff... but somehow I ended up having Cartels, some Burton pants, and Burton twin... I hate the three hole pattern, but I really like how this board feels. I don't see many people with the Twin, so I don't know if its really that special, only special under my feet i guess. I plan to get a different board next year. I haven't really tried any other companies for a park board though because it's only like my 2nd year in the park and so far this board is lasting. But it also could just be because I'm not that good... yeahh, burton is OK, I admit I have too much stuff from them, oh well.