Breaking in new boots

13560358:Poikenz said:
I heard that people lay them across two cinder blocks and jump on them.

You are thinking of skis trying to make them softer

Walk around with them in your house
 
Actual response: When I first got my full tilts, they did the same thing. If you haven't gotten the intuition liners fitted, then do that. If you have, you just need to wear the boots, after about 5 times up they will stop hurting, in my experience.
 
I used to walk around the house in mine, which seemed to help. I talked to a boot fitter once who told me not to do that, that it would not help much, so who knows. Unfortunately the only way to really do it is to ski and deal with it.

My boots are a few years old. I have injectable liners in them which are awesome, but very tight. The first day for me is always rough, but you just have to deal with it.
 
What I would do is bake them at my ski shop. Then if I'm jus chilling at home watching Netflix or playing cod then I would wear them. And I repeat this prodded every year because they tend to hurt after each season.
 
13560355:Dennis_Reynolds said:
get full tilts

This. OP, trust me, as soon as you get full tilts, all your foot pains will go away.

13560415:dan4060 said:
I used to walk around the house in mine, which seemed to help. I talked to a boot fitter once who told me not to do that, that it would not help much, so who knows.

Yeah, it doesn't help. All it'll do is wear down the soles of your boots faster
 
They will only hurt your feet for a few days. I had some Salomons that took like a week until they felt good, and about half-way through the season they felt like a pair of leather work boots.All you can really do is ski in them.
 
Ski boots are a pain, its taken me 3 years to find a pair that actually fit me properly. I had a pair of full tilts and they fucked up my feet so much i had to cut the liners off
 
Get them moulded 100%. You can wear them inside while watching tv etc as well, your foot will swell from the heat and it will start the moulding process. Other than that if they still hurt after 3-5 days and after a proper mould then i find as a boot fitter that while intution will mould to your arch a bit that they just don't offer enough support. So if your pain is mostly across the arch or if you're getting cramps then get superfeet or a similar product moulded.
 
13560714:twoshanes said:
sounds like they are too small, you should just return them and get a size or two larger

^this. Your full tilts need to be a minimum of 2xl otherwise they wont be steezy and they will hurt your feet.
 
13560630:jynx81 said:
What I would do is bake them at my ski shop. Then if I'm jus chilling at home watching Netflix or playing cod then I would wear them. And I repeat this prodded every year because they tend to hurt after each season.

you Netflix n chill in your ski boots?
 
step 1 take out the liners

step 2 but your foot in the shell and slide your heel all the way back

step 3 check to make sure the break of the boot fits proper (about 1-2 fingers width)

step 4 slide foot so the toes are gently touching the front and check to make sure the spine fits proper (about 1-2 fingers width)

step 5 if ether one of these things (especially the brake) is not a proper fit than fulltilts are not the boot that matches your foots anatomy. Dont worry you can still be just as good of a skier if your not in fulltilts I promise try to return them and go to a boot fitter.

Also just in general fulltilts are shit. I know I will lose K for this but its true. They are a low quality boot and their shape and construction works for very few people I would say 1 person out of every 100 who ware fulltilts are in the proper boot.

But I get it, its clearly more about style than fit and performance.
 
13560645:Bogs said:
Yeah, it doesn't help. All it'll do is wear down the soles of your boots faster

Ah yes, that indoor carpet... abrasive stuff. will TOTALLY ruin your boot soles...

...haha

I have questions first. Were you fit to them or did you just go on the internets and say OMG GET FULL TILTS and buy full tilts without being sized and fit?

and if you WERE fit to them, then did they cook the liners for you?

And if you didn't get footbeds in them, GO GET FOOTBEDS. even superfeet trim-to-fits are better than nothing...

If the answer to #2 is no, go back and get them cooked. If the answer to #1 is yes, then oops?

Either way, first day on a boot is gonna suck butt, almost always... especially if you were fit for performance characteristics.
 
my feet are normal so only took me about half a day to break in but if your feet are a little different get them molded that why they made the new models because the og boots were made for thin feet.
 
13561241:Jon_Taffer said:
or get boots that fit

If they fit properly they should be very tight. If they are comfortable from the get go you are getting a boot that is usually too loose.

My liners are injectible. They are an incredibly close fit, so each year the only way is to wear them to break them back in. I knew this would be the case, as the boot fitter told me so, but I don't want to sacrifice performance for comfort. The boot fitter who injected my liners did say that he could have gone with a less aggressive fit, but that a less aggressive fit would not perform to the same level, so I went tight. Some racers even ski barefoot to get as tight a fit as possible, or at least some did back around 2000 when I did my one season as a late night bootfitter in Tahoe. High performance takes an extremely tight fit. A fit that tight means it will take a bit of breaking in every year, that is just what you will have to deal with if you want high performance boots.

So if they are too comfortable they are probably too loose. For park skiing it might be different, they even tried to market soft boots to the park crowd a few years ago, although I don't know if that ever took off. But for big mountain and racing you need a very tight fit, as small as possible. A finger and a half fit as opposed to two or two and a half, which would be more comfortable. If you are going to go a finger and a half, and get performance, you will have to deal with a bit of a break-in period when you have not worn them for a long time.

In short, a perfect fit is one that is extremely tight, for high performance, rather than one that is extremely comfortable. If you go with comfort you will sacrifice performance.
 
topic:MNSkiers said:
just got new full tilts. Killed my feet today. Any tips on breaking them in?

what pain are you getting, where is it? when you take off the boot how quickly does the pain disappear?

put them in a boot oven 120'c for about 4 minutes, put them on and the liner will cool to fit your foot. other than that wear them a bit more. liner should pack out more with 20-30 hours of riding
 
13561129:skebumw said:
Also just in general fulltilts are shit. I know I will lose K for this but its true. They are a low quality boot and their shape and construction works for very few people I would say 1 person out of every 100 who ware fulltilts are in the proper boot.

But I get it, its clearly more about style than fit and performance.

Does that explain why a lot of high end athletes use them in a variety of disciplines then?

They are a great boot IF they fit your feet, just like most other boots
 
13561472:.Roockley. said:
They are a great boot IF they fit your feet, just like most other boots

I don't know about Full Tilt's specifically, but this is true for boots in general. The shape of the boot must fit the shape of your foot. I ski Techinca's because they fit my foot well. I could never ski Lange's because the shape of the boot does not fit the shape of my foot. Lange's might have changed, so my info might be out of date, but last time I checked that was the situation.

You need a good bootfitter to evaluate your foot and give you the proper boot for your foot shape. After that, I would go with a one and a half shell fit, for maximum responsiveness. If you want to go looser than that you are sacrificing some performance for comfort, which is okay if you want to go in that direction, just understand that that his the way you are going.
 
when I got my FT a few seasons ago the same thing happened, its sucks I know, but they just gota break in dw. When it was happening to me I was pissed because they felt great just wearing them, and I was worried why they hurt so much when I was skiing. Just be patient, I can tell you that once they broke in, my feet felt amazing and they are sooo comfy every time I ski to this day.
 
13561142:DingoSean said:
Ah yes, that indoor carpet... abrasive stuff. will TOTALLY ruin your boot soles...

...haha

I mean, I'm assuming that not every inch of his home is covered in carpet
 
If you bought them online you probably bought the wrong boot just to be steely and your screwed but your best bet other than getting a better boot for you is going to a boot fitter, buying a footbed and then seeing what they can do as far as boot modification because it sounds like your problems are more about the boot than the break in.
 
13561472:.Roockley. said:
Does that explain why a lot of high end athletes use them in a variety of disciplines then?

They are a great boot IF they fit your feet, just like most other boots

High end athletes are doing it because they're getting paid and if you look closely you can usually find videos with them using actual good boots that look like their pro model
 
13561726:Steezenbreeze said:
High end athletes are doing it because they're getting paid and if you look closely you can usually find videos with them using actual good boots that look like their pro model

Yep. This is the true.
 
13561502:dan4060 said:
I don't know about Full Tilt's specifically, but this is true for boots in general. The shape of the boot must fit the shape of your foot. I ski Techinca's because they fit my foot well. I could never ski Lange's because the shape of the boot does not fit the shape of my foot. Lange's might have changed, so my info might be out of date, but last time I checked that was the situation.

You need a good bootfitter to evaluate your foot and give you the proper boot for your foot shape. After that, I would go with a one and a half shell fit, for maximum responsiveness. If you want to go looser than that you are sacrificing some performance for comfort, which is okay if you want to go in that direction, just understand that that his the way you are going.

i've had boots fitted before and the shell i ride in full tilts is the same shell i rode 3/4 years ago. most people don't need a super tight boots unless you're racing or very technical with your movements whilst skiing

13561726:Steezenbreeze said:
High end athletes are doing it because they're getting paid and if you look closely you can usually find videos with them using actual good boots that look like their pro model

i've seen plenty of freestyle/moguls pros wearing them, a lot of them ride them without getting paid by them. there's a reason to the hype, it's just some people buy them without getting them fitted and then complain they hurt
 
13562349:.Roockley. said:
i've had boots fitted before and the shell i ride in full tilts is the same shell i rode 3/4 years ago. most people don't need a super tight boots unless you're racing or very technical with your movements whilst skiing

Snug and tight is what a boot should be regardless of what type of skiing you are doing. The only thing you should be able to move is your toes. This will improve your skiing from park to giant slalom. Also fulltilts are a fine boot when they fit your foot and they work but they have a poor track record of breaking after a season or two of solid use. And IN GENERAL they do not fit the average foot.
 
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