Boots ejecting when doing nose butters

WackoJacko

WackoJacko

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As said above when when ever I so a slight nose butter not even a full one my boots eject out of my bindings, now I came up with a number of reasons why this could be but I am not sure, bare in mind the soles on my boots are a bit worn but I think it was because the din setting was too low as it was at 7, my forward pressure is correct so could it just be the din is too low?
 
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As said above when when ever I so a slight nose butter not even a full one my boots eject out of my bindings, now I came up with a number of reasons why this could be but I am not sure, bare in mind the soles on my boots are a bit worn but I think it was because the din setting was too low as it was at 7, my forward pressure is correct so could it just be the din is too low?
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If the DIN is correct and the forward pressure is correct and you’re pre-releasing, your toe height/AFD pad under your toe isn’t set up correctly. You mention wear on your boots and that will make things worse for toe height.

What bindings are they?
 
You might have a budget or bad binding, such as the marker squires? I have a pair of pivot 12s and have the DIN at 7.5/8 while my weight is 165-ish and I have never ejected when pressing/doing butters.
 
13997538:Greg_K said:
If the DIN is correct and the forward pressure is correct and you’re pre-releasing, your toe height/AFD pad under your toe isn’t set up correctly. You mention wear on your boots and that will make things worse for toe height.

What bindings are they?
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My bindings are Salomon s912ti bindings
 
13997669:WackoJacko said:
My bindings are Salomon s912ti bindings
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Old bindings! Bet most techs wouldn’t even touch them with their age. Salomon are known for their toes for loosening over time so I bet that is your issue. Make sure you put your weight/height/ability and boot size currently to make sure you’re still at 7 and adjust if needed. Check the the forward pressure on both too.

Here’s the toe adjustment. Screw on the side of the toe that you tighten till it’s snug on the boot.

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13997680:Greg_K said:
Old bindings! Bet most techs wouldn’t even touch them with their age. Salomon are known for their toes for loosening over time so I bet that is your issue. Make sure you put your weight/height/ability and boot size currently to make sure you’re still at 7 and adjust if needed. Check the the forward pressure on both too.

Here’s the toe adjustment. Screw on the side of the toe that you tighten till it’s snug on the boot.

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Thanks for you help, I think I'll call up my shop and see if they can check everything and got from there. Thanks again
 
13997685:WackoJacko said:
Thanks for you help, I think I'll call up my shop and see if they can check everything and got from there. Thanks again
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Always best if the shop can adjust for you!
 
13997770:Mr.bluberry said:
Your din is way too low.. i weight about 75 kg and my din is set at 10
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ye haha i figured it might be the case so i moved it up to 10, still gonna take em to a shop tho just in case
 
13997770:Mr.bluberry said:
Your din is way too low.. i weight about 75 kg and my din is set at 10
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Do you have very small feet or did you just crank 'em up until your skis don't pop off any more?

My point is: just don't tell folks to crank their dins until all other possible problems are ruled out, in this case I think it's likely his ancient bindings aren't performing well but that's as far as I'm willing to speculate.
 
13997778:mystery3 said:
Do you have very small feet or did you just crank 'em up until your skis don't pop off any more?

My point is: just don't tell folks to crank their dins until all other possible problems are ruled out, in this case I think it's likely his ancient bindings aren't performing well but that's as far as I'm willing to speculate.
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They still pop off when neccessary and no i don’t have small feet (27.5 mondo) but you are right. with old bindings like his there might be several other reasons for binding not working like it should. Still if you weight 80kg and your din is at 7 it just can’t be right and cranking em up to 10 is not going to hurt you anyway. Personally i would just put din to 10 and if my bindings still would be popping off while buttering then it’s time for shop...but yeah that is just how I personally would solve this problem
 
13997770:Mr.bluberry said:
Your din is way too low.. i weight about 75 kg and my din is set at 10
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I have mine at 7.5 at 75kg bodyweight and I have never had any problems, the dudes biggest problem is his bindings, not the DIN tbh
 
13997808:Grabfate said:
I have mine at 7.5 at 75kg bodyweight and I have never had any problems, the dudes biggest problem is his bindings, not the DIN tbh
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Yeah, I already said that with old bindings like his there may be other problems too.... i just Personally feel that with my style of skiing i can not set my din any lower than 9.5-10 or otherwise my skis will pop out of my feet when they shouldn’t and this is why i recommended to do as i did
 
http://www.mechanicsofsport.com/skiing/equipment/bindings/din-calculator.html

Use a calculator like this and DO NOT SET HIGHER THAN 3+ Ability or you risk serious injury when your bindings don’t release when they should.

Guess many of you don’t realize that if your bindings are releasing at the proper DIN, there is either a forward pressure, toe height/AFD pad issue or in this case of a Salomon binding, Toe width adjustment needed. Always adjust these first and then maybe adjust DIN to the next ability level higher if still releasing(which is very uncommon if the other things are adjusted properly)

If your DIN is at 18 and these aren’t adjusted right, they could still pre-release and then not release when they should! Also, DIN goes UP with smaller boots and DOWN with bigger boots.

Seems to be a few techs lately not setting the toes properly I’m afraid, so be sure to go to shops you know you can trust. Never a bad idea how to learn how to properly adjust all these yourself so you can test for boot wear and changing boot sizes etc.

If in doubt, always get a tech to take a look at all the more likely causes of pre-releases before blindly increasing DIN.
 
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