Boot questions

Zurg

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HEYO NS, I have a few questions about some boots. Yes I know the right boot for me is the one the fits the best. But I have my possible boot options down to 2 different boots. Ive been looking at some Nordica ace 1 star, or Dalbello boss retro boots. Some background info about me. I ride at park city, and alta. I ski 40+ days a year, I am 5'8" and weigh 130. When at park city I am always in the park, and for alta I am just bombing down. Im mainly looking for some reviews on them for some different views. Thanks guys!
 
Since there is no responses to this I'll tell you what I think. I have the Dalbello Jakks and I honestly love them. The boss retro is a step up so I assume they are better. They also have the lower buckle swapped so it won't unbuckle when you hit the side of a rail. Sorry I have no other help, but maybe this will help you a little.

Also evo has a bunch of reviews from people and the description if you have not looked there yet so here is the link:
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Assuming you've tried them, try them again and stick around for a 1/2 hour in each. The Dalbello is slightly wider (2-3 mm) and you might pick up on that as the liner starts to pack out. I know Dalbello has had terrible heel hold for myself in the past so think about that when trying them again (it can be fixed, but the better the initial fit the easier it is to work with). I can't say much about Nordica as the only pair I've been around is the ace of spades boot about 5 years ago with the pants holder. But just to give a shitty thought, the middle buckle looks better placed on the Nordicas.
 
How have you narrowed down your options? They both fit very differently so won't both fit so I'm guessing you have not yet been to a fitter.

Start there. Go find out what shape and size of boots you need then if you really have to look online but you would be so much better buying boots from a fitter in a shop
 
13495847:tomPietrowski said:
How have you narrowed down your options? They both fit very differently so won't both fit so I'm guessing you have not yet been to a fitter.

Start there. Go find out what shape and size of boots you need then if you really have to look online but you would be so much better buying boots from a fitter in a shop

I forgot to mention, I'm heading out to a local shop to try them on. I'm just looking for some opinions and options. Thanks for the help :)
 
13495863:Zurg said:
I forgot to mention, I'm heading out to a local shop to try them on. I'm just looking for some opinions and options. Thanks for the help :)

Honestly just wait. There are so many boots out there that without first seeing a fitter it's very unlickley you will be able to select the correct shape. So rather then lookin at boots which may not fit just wait and take the advice of the fitter. Do be aware though that the boot is not the only cost. you will need some form of footbed so just be prepared to put money aside for those.
 
topic:Zurg said:
HEYO NS, I have a few questions about some boots. Yes I know the right boot for me is the one the fits the best. But I have my possible boot options down to 2 different boots.

13496075:tomPietrowski said:
Honestly just wait. There are so many boots out there that without first seeing a fitter it's very unlickley you will be able to select the correct shape. So rather then lookin at boots which may not fit just wait and take the advice of the fitter. Do be aware though that the boot is not the only cost. you will need some form of footbed so just be prepared to put money aside for those.

Quoting Tom's point for emphasis. While you have narrowed down the search to those 2 options, that unfortunately means absolutely nothing. Selecting a boot based on what you think might work for you or based on what features it has is a sure fire way to ending up in the wrong boot. Those boots don't even fit remotely the same and no way that both will work for you.

Going to a reputable boot-fitter (who may not even have "park" boots) is 100% the better way to get the right boot. He will assess your biomechanical needs and select the right boot based on that and get you into a proper footbed (this last part is just as crucial as finding the right boot). Then you will have an awesome boot for park skiing. Not doing any of this will most likely land you in the wrong boot and/or cause you grief while skiing.
 
My friend has some really really cheap dalbellos and he loves them. He says they're relatively comfortable (as comfortable as they should be) and they're pretty warm
 
You should go into bootfitting with a completely open mind. As soon as you have preconceptions about what you think you want it will affect the way your brain perceives the boot fit, because you will subconsciously suppress discomfort because you want the boot to fit you. Suddenly you're up on the hill and your feet are screaming and it's not so good any more.
 
Don't know if this counts as a boot sizing question but figured it was my best bet. I have a question that I'm hoping someone can answer for me. I have a pair of Nordica 3 piece boots and my one calf is noticeably smaller then the other due to nerve damage. But not the point. my ski boot fits snug around the other calf but i have a fair bit of space all around my other legs calf muscle. It results in my leg bouncing around my boot and wicked heel lift. I have tried spacers and wrapped tensor bandages around the leg, even tried cutting and layering socks around the area and i can't seem to find anything that fits. So my question is, does anybody have any ideas to help me with this problem???
 
13528312:jonhenryv said:
Don't know if this counts as a boot sizing question but figured it was my best bet. I have a question that I'm hoping someone can answer for me. I have a pair of Nordica 3 piece boots and my one calf is noticeably smaller then the other due to nerve damage. But not the point. my ski boot fits snug around the other calf but i have a fair bit of space all around my other legs calf muscle. It results in my leg bouncing around my boot and wicked heel lift. I have tried spacers and wrapped tensor bandages around the leg, even tried cutting and layering socks around the area and i can't seem to find anything that fits. So my question is, does anybody have any ideas to help me with this problem???

There are a few things you can try. If you want to stick with your current liner you could try a tounge eliminator. It's a piece Of foam shaped like a tounge which can be fitted inside or out of te liner. It can extend onto the forefoot whic may also help with heel lift. This alone may stand yiu too upright in the boot however so getting a spoiler added to take volume at the back could help too potentially.

The he other way to go is changing the liner to perhaps a wrap style. Wraps will add volume to the cuff but if the other boot I ok you will be sticky with a liner you don't use.

Depending how how bacd the damage is, distinct hole for example, a foam injection liner could be ideal as it could potentially fill the void somewhat. You could have the liner in both boots as you would just end up with less foam in the bigger side.

foitbeds can can help too if you have not got them. By stabilizing the foot you can help prevent pronation in the boot which can turn the tib and fib causing the cuff to be harder to fit.

Oberall you you need to look for a good fitter as you won't be fixing this problem by yourself.
 
13528680:tomPietrowski said:
There are a few things you can try. If you want to stick with your current liner you could try a tounge eliminator. It's a piece Of foam shaped like a tounge which can be fitted inside or out of te liner. It can extend onto the forefoot whic may also help with heel lift. This alone may stand yiu too upright in the boot however so getting a spoiler added to take volume at the back could help too potentially.

The he other way to go is changing the liner to perhaps a wrap style. Wraps will add volume to the cuff but if the other boot I ok you will be sticky with a liner you don't use.

Depending how how bacd the damage is, distinct hole for example, a foam injection liner could be ideal as it could potentially fill the void somewhat. You could have the liner in both boots as you would just end up with less foam in the bigger side.

foitbeds can can help too if you have not got them. By stabilizing the foot you can help prevent pronation in the boot which can turn the tib and fib causing the cuff to be harder to fit.

Oberall you you need to look for a good fitter as you won't be fixing this problem by yourself

Thank you for the advice I will mosrt likely be trying all theses suggestions. Thank you for your help.
 
Listen to Tom and Onenerdykid. Unless you know your feet and how a ski boot should fit, good luck finding a boot on your own. A fitter looks at the shape (length, width and pronation) of your feet and find a matching boot. I haven't looked into the boot models you suggest, but when onenerdy and tom say that the boots are "very different from eachother" it means that they have totally different fit (width, instep height and so on). Hence, either one of them might fit your feet, but the other one really won't.

The thing is that if you go see a fitter and get a decent boot and maybe a custom footbed, you will after a couple of years be able to throw the liner into a dumpster (when it has packed out) and have a new one made, but using the same shell. So not only do you have a better fitting boot, but you also have a longer lasting one, if you get something with a durable shell and some solid buckles etc.
 
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